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I've noticed that paint quality seems to of slipped when Honda made the switch to water based paints...

TOV thinks its an issue with the pearl... you guys?

 

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Paint quality started to suffer on the 8th gens, which is when honda made the switch... my dark blue 07 coupe was all dinged up on the nose and hood after 3 years of leasing.

That said, my 9th gens don't seem to be as bad about the dings on the hood, but i know that the paint is definitely thin as i have a very very very small scrape on my back bumper where the paint literally was peeled back.

Most car companies use this water based paint now, as it's cheaper and more environmentally friendly. Really only the german automakers still use oil based i think. Maybe some other luxury makers too. So it's not just honda that has this issue. It also doesn't help that honda cost cuts with paint. 1 layer of primer. 1 layer of paint. 1 layer topcoat... if they'd just add 1 extra layer of topcoat it'd help alot i think.
 

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Paint quality started to suffer on the 8th gens, which is when honda made the switch... my dark blue 07 coupe was all dinged up on the nose and hood after 3 years of leasing.

That said, my 9th gens don't seem to be as bad about the dings on the hood, but i know that the paint is definitely thin as i have a very very very small scrape on my back bumper where the paint literally was peeled back.

Most car companies use this water based paint now, as it's cheaper and more environmentally friendly. Really only the german automakers still use oil based i think. Maybe some other luxury makers too. So it's not just honda that has this issue. It also doesn't help that honda cost cuts with paint. 1 layer of primer. 1 layer of paint. 1 layer topcoat... if they'd just add 1 extra layer of topcoat it'd help alot i think.
At the same time, think of the money that people spend simply on getting a paint color other than white or black from the German brands. If you are buying a luxury car then maybe you are okay with paying $5,000 for brown, but on mainstream models I think that it is a good decision to spend a lot less on paint to keep the cost of the vehicle low.
 

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Well, Honda is spending 210 million on a new painting plant with a whole new process over in Ohio, where the Civic will be built. It's either going to help or hurt lol, but the first run cars will not benefit from this for now but I'd assume the 2017 models will. See this link for info, they just announced it a couple weeks ago.

http://ohio.honda.com/article/honda...-paint-system-will-significantly-reduce-envir
 

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Well, Honda is spending 210 million on a new painting plant with a whole new process over in Ohio, where the Civic will be built. It's either going to help or hurt lol, but the first run cars will not benefit from this for now but I'd assume the 2017 models will. See this link for info, they just announced it a couple weeks ago.

http://ohio.honda.com/article/honda...-paint-system-will-significantly-reduce-envir
The civic is built in indiana and canada not Ohio the Ohio plant that you are speaking of builds the ILX, TLX, and the accord
 

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Black Betty's paint is/was nearly flawless when we purchased the car. After nearly three years, it's still great looking except where SEMBO backed into a concrete parking lot light stand and where someone scratched the top of the trunk lid ever so slightly. I fixed the gouges in the right rear bumper fascia and the trunk lid rubbed out with some Meguier's cleaner/polish. I' pretty sure this car was done with water borne paint.
 

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At the same time, think of the money that people spend simply on getting a paint color other than white or black from the German brands. If you are buying a luxury car then maybe you are okay with paying $5,000 for brown, but on mainstream models I think that it is a good decision to spend a lot less on paint to keep the cost of the vehicle low.
Doesn't have to be a European luxury car. GM charges extra for some colors on even their cheapest lines.
Black Granite Metallic is $225 extra, used to be $395
Sable Metallic is $395 as is Autumn Bronze Metallic
 

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Doesn't have to be a European luxury car. GM charges extra for some colors on even their cheapest lines.
Black Granite Metallic is $225 extra, used to be $395
Sable Metallic is $395 as is Autumn Bronze Metallic
True that. More and more car companies are starting to offer colors for a price, anything that isn't the basic black, white, red, blue and gray ends up getting priced as an option. It's lame. Glad honda doesn't do that.
 

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The paint was excellent on my 2014 Accord white orchid pearl. The finish was smooth and no orange peel anywhere. My complaints about the car was road noise, body gaps / fit, a couple interior rattles (fixed). Overall a good car.
 

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to the OP: Did you purchase the car with the paint like that, or has it become that way during ownership. When I took possession of Black Betty, I did so on a sunny day outside so we could go over it in detail. The salesman even had it parked in the sun on his own.
 

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I've noticed that paint quality seems to of slipped when Honda made the switch to water based paints...

TOV thinks its an issue with the pearl... you guys?
Are those pits? ie. can you put your fingernail in them? If so, my black 2000 Nissan Frontier did the exact same thing on the hood and roof when it was just out of warranty. The Nissan district/area rep (can't remember now what you call them) looked at it but refused to fix it.
 

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OP: Is this car parked outside or garaged when not being driven?
 
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