[RobbJK88]

Those are both pretty much class competitive/class leading depending on the competition. Very nice. honda didn't disappoint.

 

[RobbJK88]

I figured the 1.5t would make the same hp as the base just more torque, actually super pumped they went above and beyond and actually made the turbo a class competitive engine with those numbers. Even more excited to get an EX with the 1.5T

 

[RobbJK88]

I though that it will be 155-160Hp 175/180 TQ like 1.4T jetta and 1.4T cruze...
But we have 174, wow!!
But torque??


And did the EX will have full Led? They said upper trim only...

The car at the debut was a top line touring. its the only one with full LED headlights... the rest of the lineup has LED tails, project beam headlights and LED accent lights.

 

[RobbJK88]

where did you guys find the numbers? 40 mpg sounds niiiiceee LOL

They were mentioned by the lead exterior designer during the debut.

He also said class leading refinement, driving dynamics and quietness.

 

[RobbJK88]

yea i heard all the rhetoric, internet connection was giving me fits so i missed the bit wit the numbers...

He mentioned them quickly and said 2.0 was 15 more horses and 1.5T was 30 more horses.

 

[RobbJK88]

I'm really glad honda decided to go with class leading power. can't wait to get torque numbers either. And yea, the civic does tend to meet or undercut the mazda on price, and its definitely cheaper than the golf. Those numbers even beat the ford focus and kia/hyundai offerings currently.

 

[RobbJK88]

but man the mazdas are pretty...

They are... if they made a mazda 3 coupe i'd be kicking honda to the curb... but i love my coupes. haha.

 

[RobbJK88]

oh no the passenger rear floor hum is back ....that was like one of the best features in the previous generations.

but now its there

Probably a side effect of them lowering the floor in the car to make it sit lower and handle better.

 

[RobbJK88]

Hoping the Si gets an auto option this time around (i might do go for that instead of an EX turbo) either a CVT or a DCT would work just fine if the CVT can handle the Si's power.

Side note, i've seen on multiple articles the EX with turbo is being called the EX-T trim.

 

[RobbJK88]

Kensic, This is what I saw 1 month ago...
but it should be like that:


With 6-speed manual transmission
•LX with 2.0-liter
•EX with 2.0-liter


after the presentation it seems that EX with manual transmission will be with 2.0L engine only.
no manual transmission fot 1.5T.
This is the model that I was looking for....EX manual with 1.5T
the 1.5 turbo will be available on EX with automatic transmission, and standard on EX-L trim and above with automatic transmission.

Also keep in mind they're only talking about the sedan. The coupe might have a different layout, something like the Accord. Starting at an LXS trim instead of an LX trim... offering a manual on the turbo engine EX etc. Just have to wait and see.

 

[RobbJK88]

Do we know if it runs on regular gas? Or will I need to spend more on mid-grade?

Will the turbo require premium?

Most likely honda has made the engines capable of running on regular. Most of the small turbos on the market from ford, chevy and even VW's new small turbo base engine all run on regular. They wouldn't scare away potential customers with an engine that only takes premium.

That said. The higher output Type R and possibly the Si may take premium to get the full output of the engines.

 

[RobbJK88]

I know the rep mentions the gains of the 1.5T, but doesn't it feel a little skeptical regarding the output?
Dont get me wrong, those are some really good news but it seems too good to be true?

They said it would be getting a 30 horsepower gain over the current car's engine.... that's 174 horses. So it's not being generous... it's being true. Honda's lead designer wouldn't be allowed to stand up at the big reveal and lie about output numbers, he'd be fired.

We don't know torque yet. The 1.5T that motortrend tested months ago was tuned up more than the one going in the upper trim civics. I figure torque should be around 160 or so.