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Sporty Exterior & Interior

Earlier this year a Si Coupe prototype was spied testing and Honda made no attempt to hide a lot of features that identify what it is. A center exhaust, aggressive front fascia, aggressive rear lower bumper and wheels, all very similar to the concept. Mounting points for a spoiler can be seen in some pictures. Like Si Coupes & Sedan’s before it, bucket seats, red stitching, alcantara trim make up a lot of what you see throughout the interior
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Detuned Type R Engine

Expected under the hood is a turbocharged 2.0-liter Inline 4 producing power in the low 200hp range, a detuned version of the Type R’s engine. Mated to it will be a 6-speed manual transmission (see spy shots) with no word of an automatic so far.
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Pricing & Availability

It has been officially confirmed that the Si will make its debut at this years L.A. Auto Show (Nov 18-27), on-sale date to follow with competitive pricing around the $25,000 range.
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Sedan?

Previous generations offered both an Si Coupe & Sedan and if there`s anything to learn from the past it`s that both are required, just a month left to go till we find out.
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Aftermarket Support

Honda has stepped up to the plate with this generation, offering an exciting line up of Civic`s that create the perfect blank canvas for aftermarket modifications, especially when working off a turbocharged 2.0 four-cylinder engine. An ECU tune to break into the 250+ hp range will one of many owners will want.
 

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Your pictures seems to be broken. I thought that a Si coupe and sedan was a done deal? Can't seem to recall where I read that.
 

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if Honda is smart they will do everything they can to make this the "M235i" of the Civic line up, if they can do that then this will once again be the hottest coupe in its segment like it was years ago and hot when compared to segments above and below it.
 

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I thought it was already confirmed as well.. hm.. nonetheless $25k for the 2.0t... why not ?! Sales will obviously do well because that's just how they've always been so nothing really to worry about there.
 

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I don't see them releasing a "premium sport car" with around the same base HP as a 1.5L model. I would expect this car to have at least 250 HP. Am I crazy? A 2017 Boosted car with the same HP as a 2002 RSX?
 

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I don't see them releasing a "premium sport car" with around the same base HP as a 1.5L model. I would expect this car to have at least 250 HP. Am I crazy? A 2017 Boosted car with the same HP as a 2002 RSX?

Im betting on 220-230 range for the SI, dont want to give it too much. I bet They want the Type R to feel exclusive and the owners to feel like they paid a significant premium and got a significant increase over buying an SI. Leave room for the aftermarket and tuners to make improvements on the SI, like they always have.
 
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We'll probably see around 305 ponies in the new Type R so the Si will need to have significantly less power than that to make the Type R worthwhile. 250 may be too close to the Type R power output so we'll probably see no more than 240 hp?
 

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250hp still doesn't seem that far off in that scenario though. If we're expecting anything around 300hp out of the Type R, than a 50hp drop is a fair bit for the Si. Nonetheless, even if it is around 220ish which is "RSX" power, the power band and torque numbers will be very different.
 

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Even just assuming they keep the current formula of the 8th and 9th gen Si over the base civics which had a 60hp difference (give or take a few here and there on the 9th gen after tweaks they made late in life) 234 would put the new Si 60hp over the 1.5T so i'd say that's probably the best bet. Also take into account the mountains more torque the 2.0T will make over the old 2.4 and the Si should be a properly quick sports coupe, keeping it well below CTR levels of zoom, but well above the 1.5T and previous Si models.
 

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Think they'll come with a Civic Hatchback Si? Something to bridge the power gap between the top trim and the Type R?
 

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Think they'll come with a Civic Hatchback Si? Something to bridge the power gap between the top trim and the Type R?
I personally don't see a Hatch Si coming this generation... maybe next... i think the hatch sport trims are meant to stand in for the Si hatch since they have pretty much all the same visual differences the Si will have and the slight power bump. Since they're built in the UK (where they don't get the Si) is even more evidence that we won't get one.

I personally think honda is testing the waters with the hatch to see if there is high enough demand/sales to warrant an Si model. Keeping the Si models as Sedan and Coupe only also helps prevent some sales stealing between type R (hatch only) and Si models, and makes the Type R even more desirable.

Again, i think we could eventually see one in the future, possibly if the hatch does well enough honda could bring production here to the US or Canada, and if that happens, then we will get a hatch Si, but until that happens, i don't see it being in the plans for the 10th gens.
 

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so now that we know its not a d-tune type r engine but a 1.5t vct dual cam with a high performance tune what do you guys think
Great news since I have a EXT.Flash Pro coming soon.
 

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