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Found this article on MotorTrend and thought I would cut it down a little, the full link will be below !

These are six things learned about the upcoming 2017 Honda Civic Si :

1) The Civic Si will come as a coupe and sedan

2) It will not come in a hatcback form. The Type R is a hatch because it's being built at the Swindon plant, and all coupe and sedan models are built in Ontario, Canada

3) The Rallye Red Pearl won't make it into production, but the Rallye Red will be as it is the Si's signature colour

4) It'll be powered by a 1.5t, direct-injected, dual-VTC I-4 engine mated to a close-ratio six-speed manual which will be the sole transmission

5) The HFP 19" wheels and brake combo will not be standard but will be offered through dealers. More accessories to be announced

6) Center mounted tips are exclusive to sportier models. 180hp hatch sport and sport touring (dual round), the new Si (dual with polygon), and the Type R (triple round)

http://www.motortrend.com/news/6-things-learned-about-the-upcoming-2017-honda-civic-si/

 

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I think it looks great. Interior is nice. We just need to see the power numbers.

I feel this car is going to be huge.
The previous generation Si made 180 HP and 160 lb-ft, so with the Si set to be faster and have better get up and go. just looking at power alone it should fall right under the 200hp range. With what they're up against this time around, that sort of power will serve them well, but of course what also matters is where that power is being made.
 

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If i had to make a guess at figures, i'd guess the new Si will have 210-220hp and around 190-200 tq. Lighter than the 9th gen Si was with a much much broader and stronger torque band i could easily see it doing 0-60 in less than 6 seconds, which puts it right in line with competition like the GTI. No, it's not a 2.0T with as much tuner potential, but for around $25k it'll be a great deal on a quick sporty car, and it'll probably handle corners like a dream... so i think everyone bashing the choice of the uptuned 1.5T should just calm down and wait till we actually see some performance numbers. Ya'll might actually be surprised.
 

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If i had to make a guess at figures, i'd guess the new Si will have 210-220hp and around 190-200 tq. Lighter than the 9th gen Si was with a much much broader and stronger torque band i could easily see it doing 0-60 in less than 6 seconds, which puts it right in line with competition like the GTI. No, it's not a 2.0T with as much tuner potential, but for around $25k it'll be a great deal on a quick sporty car, and it'll probably handle corners like a dream... so i think everyone bashing the choice of the uptuned 1.5T should just calm down and wait till we actually see some performance numbers. Ya'll might actually be surprised.
Well, you have me sold lol.
 

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Hondata found about 28 whp in the 1.5l turbo motor that could be easily and safely unleashed. I think that is realistically the maximum that Honda would squeeze out of it as a mass marketed reliable platform to offer as an Si model.

That equates to approx. 33 hp at the crank/engine which manufactures use for their power specs. That would bring the motor up to a factory rating of 207-210 range. I'm betting on an advertised power rating of 200-210 hp for the Si model. I don't think Honda will stray beyond those numbers with their conservative nature.


We can get that power level right now with an affordable Hondata reflash, maybe a few more ponies with FP, so I'm still happy and I don't see the need to move up to the Si model. The Type R will be fantastic but the price point in my country will be pretty high I think, and will not motivate me to get a Type R as much as I would like one.
 
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That would give it enough that drivers would feel the difference, more opened up with better throttle response probably. Gives reason to say that it is a performance oriented sporty model and makes life a boat ton easier for them. How much room would it leave us with to squeeze out of it though, reliably ?
 

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Most definitely. I always feel like they've received the short end of the stick haha. They got duped ! The only point I think they have are the aesthetics I think.
 

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The way I see it, if you really want that level of performance you will learn how to drive a manual. And chances are research shows they're not losing much by not making it available. By making it available they might be losing money.

There's a much stronger pull to getting an Si than say a basemodel Civic.
 

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Just wish they went with a detuned 2.0-liter turbo-four instead of a 1.5-liter. Give the tuning crowd more room to work with.
 

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Agree ^^ But regardless, it will definitely still produce a great demand from the enthusiasts that don't have the money to dish out for a Type R anyhow. If they put the 2.0t in there, the price would have to reflect that as well
 
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