[RobbJK88]

Definitely. Between the camo masking dimensions and curves and various angles the pictures are taken at, its hard to really guess at sizing. Some pic the civic looks about the same size as the 9th. Others it looks accord sized. The one spy picture that shows the very short stocky lady leaning on the trunk (assuming she's short at about 5 foot) gives a good size comparison.

The pictures of the 10th in the parking lot next to the 9th gen sedan is also a good indicator that length has gone up that much (a few inches at most) and that the height is only marginally lower if at all. The biggest most noticeable difference in all the pictures is the width of the car which looks almost accord like.

I noticed also in the terrible interior picture posted above (the one with the finger) the seats have contrast stitching which i hope makes it across the trim levels. It's a nice little touch that adds alot of visual appeal.

 

[RobbJK88]

http://www.civicx.com/threads/newest-2016-civic-sedan-closeup-spy-pics.69/http://www.civicx.com/threads/newest-2016-civic-sedan-closeup-spy-pics.69/

Looks like more pics have surfaces of the sedan. Hot weather testing in the western U.S. These are some really clear pictures and are pretty close up (good camera and zoom).

You can really see alot of the details in the headlights and accent lights as well as the LED tails which aren't as flat as all the renderings make them look.

Very good pictures (and also a bunch of the already seen interior shots)

 

[5TAR]

Can anyone here knowledgeable in tires make out what brand and size of tire is being used on the test mules?

 

[RobbJK88]

Can anyone here knowledgeable in tires make out what brand and size of tire is being used on the test mules?

No idea what brand. On the various spy photos i've noticed them using standard height tires (with the normal taller sidewalls) and i've seen them using semi-low profile tires (run flats?). What i have noticed is that all the tires ive seen, even on the hubcapped testers is that the tires look good sized. At least 16 if not 17 inchers.

I'm hoping still that they do away with hubcaps on the LX and go alloys across the board. 16s on the LX and 17s on the EX/EXL reserving 18s for the Si and Type R.

At least the wheels seem to fill up the wheel wells better on most of these testers we've seen than they do on the current civic that seems like the car sits too high on its suspension.

 

[PatrickCiv16]

WOW - these are some excellent shots!!! The new Civic is going to look fantastic! I'm very excited!

Thanks, Robb for posting these!

 

[PatrickCiv16]

I figure that is most likely the "Sport" trim in the pics (dual exhaust, no moonroof).

The new Civic looks very balanced. I really like what I see so far.

 

[Smith]

No idea what brand. On the various spy photos i've noticed them using standard height tires (with the normal taller sidewalls) and i've seen them using semi-low profile tires (run flats?). What i have noticed is that all the tires ive seen, even on the hubcapped testers is that the tires look good sized. At least 16 if not 17 inchers.

I'm hoping still that they do away with hubcaps on the LX and go alloys across the board. 16s on the LX and 17s on the EX/EXL reserving 18s for the Si and Type R.

At least the wheels seem to fill up the wheel wells better on most of these testers we've seen than they do on the current civic that seems like the car sits too high on its suspension.

Honda throwing run flats on these would be horrible IMO. I rather they stick to normal tires. Plus on a budget car like this, going with the cheaper 'normal' tire seems ideal.

 

[RobbJK88]

Honda throwing run flats on these would be horrible IMO. I rather they stick to normal tires. Plus on a budget car like this, going with the cheaper 'normal' tire seems ideal.

Looking at the competition alot of cars are using run flats. They offer better grip and handling than taller sidewalls. And they save money by not including a spare tire. So budget is a moot point there.

I would still like to see low profile or semi-low profile tires used at least on upper trims. I can't stand the look of full size traditional tires and while they help in ride comfort they hurt handling in turns because of side wall flex.

I just want better tires than my current 14 has. They has zero grip. Chirping tires and drifting back end you push it the least bit... unacceptable when my 07 and 10 didn't do this...

 

[Smartie]

Looking at the competition alot of cars are using run flats. They offer better grip and handling than taller sidewalls. And they save money by not including a spare tire. So budget is a moot point there.

I would still like to see low profile or semi-low profile tires used at least on upper trims. I can't stand the look of full size traditional tires and while they help in ride comfort they hurt handling in turns because of side wall flex.

I just want better tires than my current 14 has. They has zero grip. Chirping tires and drifting back end you push it the least bit... unacceptable when my 07 and 10 didn't do this...

RFTS are more expensive to replace and its been found they actually blow out more often then regular tires. Not to mention the SUPER stiff carcass that allows you to drive on flat is detrimental to handling. There's a reason no race cars ever use low pro tires. You need some sidewall deflection to widen the contact patch under cornering... which RFT's don't do. The improved handling and grip thing is skewed because their most often applied to luxury vehicles using summer compounds...

http://jalopnik.com/everyone-hates-run-flat-tires-464884753

Run-flat tires are primarily being used on luxury and performance sports vehicles. In both instances, overall satisfaction with tires is lower when vehicles are equipped with run-flat tires, compared with when they are equipped with standard tires.

Overall satisfaction among owners of luxury vehicles with run-flat tires is 728 (on a 1,000-point scale), compared with 739 among those who own luxury vehicles with standard tires. The gap is even more pronounced among owners of performance sports vehicles, among whom overall satisfaction is 665 with run-flat tires vs. 732 with standard tires.

http://www.edmunds.com/driving-tips/run-flat-tires-a-primer.html

Harsher ride: The stiff sidewalls that make a run-flat work also result in a harder ride. If the vehicle came with run-flat tires from the factory, the automaker usually tunes the suspension to offset the harsher ride.

 

[RobbJK88]

I see i see. Thanks for the information. I'm definitely not a tire expert. haha. I still don't like the look of the traditional full size side walls. I prefer the lower sidewalls like my 07 coupe had or even like my 14 coupe has (compared to the sedan).

I just want better gripping tires. Both my 2013 sedan and 2014 coupe have far less grip than my 07 or 10 coupe and sedan had...

 

[5TAR]

I see i see. Thanks for the information. I'm definitely not a tire expert. haha. I still don't like the look of the traditional full size side walls. I prefer the lower sidewalls like my 07 coupe had or even like my 14 coupe has (compared to the sedan).

I just want better gripping tires. Both my 2013 sedan and 2014 coupe have far less grip than my 07 or 10 coupe and sedan had...

That's the look I prefer as well when it comes to a vehicle like this where going for a smaller wall wouldn't do much harm to what the vehicle was designed for. When going aftermarket I like going for a slight stretch.

 

[RobbJK88]

That's the look I prefer as well when it comes to a vehicle like this where going for a smaller wall wouldn't do much harm to what the vehicle was designed for. When going aftermarket I like going for a slight stretch.

For sure. I guess i feel that no matter what tires are chosen, the coupe can sacrifice some ride comfort to gain traction and handling while the sedan which is the comfort/volume seller can stick with traditional tires that sacrifice some handling in return for having a softer more comfortable ride. It's all about demographics.

The coupe was always meant to be the looker of the family (not that the sedan is ugly in any way) but coupes have always played the role of the better performing and better looking counterpart to sedans. So thinner tires work well for the coupe.

 

[Smartie]

I see i see. Thanks for the information. I'm definitely not a tire expert. haha. I still don't like the look of the traditional full size side walls. I prefer the lower sidewalls like my 07 coupe had or even like my 14 coupe has (compared to the sedan).

I just want better gripping tires. Both my 2013 sedan and 2014 coupe have far less grip than my 07 or 10 coupe and sedan had...

I'm sure Honda went for a lower rolling resistance tire as fuel economy became the prime selling feature post '09? Just a theory because fundamentally there shouldn't be much difference mechanically between your Civic batches...

Do you remember what they came stock with vs what came stock on your 14?

 

[RobbJK88]

I'm sure Honda went for a lower rolling resistance tire as fuel economy became the prime selling feature post '09? Just a theory because fundamentally there shouldn't be much difference mechanically between your Civic batches...

Do you remember what they came stock with vs what came stock on your 14?

My 07 coupe i know had Bridgestones, Potenza seems to ring a bell? My 13 coupe came with low rolling resistance, not sure of brand. My 14 coupe has Continental ContiSport Pro Contact.

 

[Smith]

Honda has been running bridgestones for a while, probably have a contract with them for xx amount of years, even back to the 7th generation civic they had them.

 

[Smartie]

Honda has been running bridgestones for a while, probably have a contract with them for xx amount of years, even back to the 7th generation civic they had them.

sometimes there's multiple contracts. OEM tires aren't typically the greatest either...

 

[RobbJK88]

sometimes there's multiple contracts. OEM tires aren't typically the greatest either...

It just kills me that i feel like my 07 performed better on winding roads than my 14 coupe does now, and i can attribute 95% of it to the tires. Honda should go back to the 07 tires, they were great!