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It was a handsome design though, very close to the Furia Concept Vehicle, actually. But kind of a disappointment mechanically. Had to LOL at the journos always singling out the Corolla's 4 speed auto transmission; actually, I was a fan of this piece of Neolithic technology, the best part of the new/old Corolla, bulletproof, durable, up to the demands of life in harsh environments, in places like Mongolia. And it has very good standard LED headlights, low beams only, though.

Really love the new Civic, but if I had to pick a car to be used and abused for 10 years, in a harsh land, with irregular servicing, I might just pick the Corolla with that much maligned 4 speed auto.
 

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Toyota cars are made to last but their designs aren't always on point. Not saying the Corolla is hideous but they could do better and yea you would pick a Toyota if you need something that lasts a long time with minimal maintenance.
Honda quality is sturdy too and most of us lives close to a Honda dealership so it shouldn't be a concern for us and the Civic looks better.
 

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4Tires, I totally agree. Most of us DON'T live in Outer Mongolia, so the purported "extra" robustness of Toyotas (which may not even exist anymore) would be wasted. And the expected superior driving dynamics of the Civic over the Corolla by far overpower the Corolla's "charms". No insult intended to those who live in Outer Mongolia, btw, and I HAVE owned a Corolla before, an AE85, so no insult to Corolla owners either.

Looks to me like the Civic comes pretty darn close to the driving engagement of the Mazda3, with better looks, sightlines, and reliability. Can't wait to grab me a hatchback!
 

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they are very reliable those Toyota's
as reliable as they're boring
and that's why I'll never buy a Toyota
 

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The 2016 Civic Sedan's numbers looks better than the Corolla one whether it by hp, mpg, mph, etc. Still down to personal preference but Toyota does need to up it's design game.
 

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I think it's obvious that the Civic this time around is a step above. 9th generation was closer to the Corolla and just about everything in the segment, 10th is in the middle of that and the Accord.
 

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Not every Toyota is bad but the Corolla is one of the worst Toyota vehicles out there. 15 year old platform, 20 year old transmission on some models, suspension technology from the 80's. But Toyota puts LED headlights and a nice stereo in to fool 90% of the population into thinking it is up to date. It is a shame to an otherwise decent car company.
 

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I had a 2015 Corolla that I traded in for my 2015 Civic. The only reason I made the trade was the Honda had a few more items I wanted that the Toyota did not, but it was not a huge deal either way. I drove from Columbus to Memphis and back and averaged 42mpg and the ride was decent. I will be making a cross country trip in the civic this coming summer.

Honestly its a matter of preference, they both are decent cars for the money.
 

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Is anyone else at least interested in what Toyota is going to do now?

The new Corolla is going to come out of TNGA like the new prius, prob. If they don't get gaudy again like they were for both prius and mirai I think they're going to come back with a competitive product.
 

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Actually the '14-16 Corollas have a CVT automatic with the exception of the base "L" trim model which is very rare and it has the 4-speed automatic. The LE trim and S trim models have a CVT automatic transmission. I almost bought a '15 Corolla before I bought my Sonata... I regret getting the Hyundai. Now I want a new Civic.


One good thing about the Corolla is that you can now get optional XM radio with navigation on the LE model. I looked at a '16 LE today with the option package for a $20,400 sticker price... also most dealers are offering $3,500 off (at least around here), so it is a bargain. You have to get a high trim Civic to get XM radio/navigation. The Corolla also has a soft ride for a small car, another thing I liked about it.
 

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I just don't find Toyotas very exciting. The Civic isn't the most exciting, but for a mainstream sedan I think that is is great. The Toyota Corolla just doesn' have any part of it that intruiges me.
 

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The CVT equipped Corolla is very weak in the "go" department. The 10th gen will outshine it in performance very easily.
 

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I've learned not to expect much from the Corolla... even the Camry has gone back to the drawing board multiple times to keep it up to snuff with the competition and for the most part still falls behind the accord in alot of ways other than basic straight line speed. Toyota for a long time has been happy to be an appliance company that makes point A to B cars for the general masses that don't care about how a car performs, as long as it starts and goes forward (even when that forward motion is unintended lol). It's not a bad thing that they offer vehicles like this... it's just not a company that has any exciting products in its portfolio (they save those for Lexus and to an extent scion) and thus enthusiasts have to go elsewhere, but said driving enthusiasts are the minority, and that's why brands like Honda and Mazda make sporty, fun, engaging compact/midsize cars that can pull double duty as fun to drive AND daily drivers.
 

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I've learned not to expect much from the Corolla... even the Camry has gone back to the drawing board multiple times to keep it up to snuff with the competition and for the most part still falls behind the accord in alot of ways other than basic straight line speed. Toyota for a long time has been happy to be an appliance company that makes point A to B cars for the general masses that don't care about how a car performs, as long as it starts and goes forward (even when that forward motion is unintended lol). It's not a bad thing that they offer vehicles like this... it's just not a company that has any exciting products in its portfolio (they save those for Lexus and to an extent scion) and thus enthusiasts have to go elsewhere, but said driving enthusiasts are the minority, and that's why brands like Honda and Mazda make sporty, fun, engaging compact/midsize cars that can pull double duty as fun to drive AND daily drivers.
I know what you're saying, and it's unfortunate that in the US all the "interesting" Toyotas aren't branded Toyotas ;)
 

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I think in a way it's good that regular toyota aren't exciting since it helps to target the masses that just want something to get around in that's reliable , affordable and has good build quality.
 

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read reviews before blindly saying the civic is better just solely based on Tech!

look up honda civic uncomfortable seats. IT'S AN EPIDEMIC. all you IDIOTS going on and on about how the civic surpasses toyota's technology in every way. YEAH SO WHAT?! HAHA not like you can enjoy all those bells and whistles when your back and neck are ACHING! I'd rather have a car that provides comfortable transportation, you don't NEED lane departure warning or blind spot monitoring, stop being a lazy **** and turn your head and check your blind spot.. IT'S NOT THAT HARD. and whats with this complete douche **** above me comparing the 2 cars to HS bitches? WHAT ARE YOU LIKE 15?! that was quite possibly the stupidest most un-intelligent remark I've EVER read on a car forum! The new corolla is a stylish car more conservative, the civic is more futuristic looking. honestly alot of consumers in forums are starting to say the new civic resembles a transformer. so it's got some quirky styling cues too....
 
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