I saw this and thought about the Type R... hopefully the 10th gen Type R will be able to take back the record
Finally beat ?
We all know that the Civic Type R destroyed the Nurburgring record set by the Renault Megane RS before by approximately 4.3 seconds which was a huge deal. Record time was set at 7:50.63. But, there's a new FWD champ on the track now. The VW Golf GTI Clubsport S hit a time of 7:49.21. A bit over 1.4 seconds which is a big deal when it comes to Motorsports. Thoughts ?
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On the track this is great but on the street both will come out near even and that's just to the small amount of people that will care for specifics like this rather than what's good enough for the segment and what brand suits them. The latter is important, not often do you see people jump from one brand to another.
Does seem really even in the real-world, off track testing. Really don't think any brand jumping will be happening as people that follow either/or tend to be pretty dead certain. Both brands have an extremely large following as well as aftermarket support. They've had that for quite a long time. Should be really interesting to see how the new Type R will fare
A 1.4 second time difference won't make people change over from Toyota and I won't be surprised to see the new Civic Type R beat that time. Toyota keeps up with the news and now that the VW Golf GTI Clubsport S has beat their time, they'll want to come out with something to wow the hot hatch world.
Definitely not, Even if the time difference was 5+ seconds, I don't feel like it would make a significant difference to peoples thoughts on their manufacturer of choice. But the hatch world is changing at a rapid rate, and people are stepping their games up quite a bit. Lap time "champs" are going to be changing constantly in my opinion.
This is pretty interesting but I'm positive it won't last for long as well
The hot hatch enthusiasts may change from brand to brand but I assume a majority of hot hatch buyers will stick to the brand they're loyal to. Also, production of it is limited to 400 cars worldwide. Leaves plenty of buyers for Honda.
Wow that few? Yea, honda won't have an issue keeping sales. The Type R is limited production, but not THAT limited.The hot hatch enthusiasts may change from brand to brand but I assume a majority of hot hatch buyers will stick to the brand they're loyal to. Also, production of it is limited to 400 cars worldwide. Leaves plenty of buyers for Honda.
I agree with others here, the 'ring FWD track record changes on a pretty regular basis, part of the reason the Type R held on so long was partially due to the fact there was a speed limit imposed for a few months on the 'ring (due to recent accidents) that only just lifted like a month or 2 ago.
With the new platform (which is 300% more advanced than the fit platform the CTR rides on now) and revised mechanics i don't doubt the Type R will win it's crown back... until another hot hatch comes along and beats it again. lol.
Most people don't jump brands, especially over something as minor as a 1.5 second difference which in real world is basically a non-existent difference that'll be made up by better/worse drivers.
The hot hatch enthusiasts may change from brand to brand but I assume a majority of hot hatch buyers will stick to the brand they're loyal to. Also, production of it is limited to 400 cars worldwide. Leaves plenty of buyers for Honda.
I as well didn't know that it was that limited, that's intense.Wow that few? Yea, honda won't have an issue keeping sales. The Type R is limited production, but not THAT limited.
I agree with others here, the 'ring FWD track record changes on a pretty regular basis, part of the reason the Type R held on so long was partially due to the fact there was a speed limit imposed for a few months on the 'ring (due to recent accidents) that only just lifted like a month or 2 ago.
With the new platform (which is 300% more advanced than the fit platform the CTR rides on now) and revised mechanics i don't doubt the Type R will win it's crown back... until another hot hatch comes along and beats it again. lol.
Most people don't jump brands, especially over something as minor as a 1.5 second difference which in real world is basically a non-existent difference that'll be made up by better/worse drivers.
But the Type R I'm sure will be in a position to take that crown back. Just a matter of how long it will hold it again lol. We've all reached a consensus that the crown holder will not be long-lasting, which in turn makes the game all more interesting.
Amuses me how someone might select their real life car based on a track record. What, do I need to race to my office and get there 3.6 seconds earlier?
It's kid's stuff to make such a decision based on numbers, including having "only" 485 hp when the other car has 495. Either has several times enough to get you arrested or killed.
Buy your car based on how much fun and joy it brings to you when you do real world driving. Both cars are plenty quick and impressive.
It's kid's stuff to make such a decision based on numbers, including having "only" 485 hp when the other car has 495. Either has several times enough to get you arrested or killed.
Buy your car based on how much fun and joy it brings to you when you do real world driving. Both cars are plenty quick and impressive.
Totally agree. You're not going to be driving around trying to "smash records". You're buying it for the joy and the love of the car itself.Amuses me how someone might select their real life car based on a track record. What, do I need to race to my office and get there 3.6 seconds earlier?
It's kid's stuff to make such a decision based on numbers, including having "only" 485 hp when the other car has 495. Either has several times enough to get you arrested or killed.
Buy your car based on how much fun and joy it brings to you when you do real world driving. Both cars are plenty quick and impressive.
Heard the noise insulating material was removed from this Golf so the sound will be loud in the cabin if nothing else but if I was going to get a hot hatch, it'll have to be the Type R just because it's what I'm used to and the last two cars I've owned are hondas .
VW has probably lost quite a bit of brand loyalty since diesel gate but honda is still going strong.
VW has probably lost quite a bit of brand loyalty since diesel gate but honda is still going strong.
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