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I Might Pre-Order This Intake - AFE/Takeda

After seeing the few intakes being developed for the 1.5 T motor I think I may go with the AFE/Takeda intake. It looks like a nice design, advertised gains look good. The advertised gains are not as large as Injen's but I am not so sure I believe the gains posted by Injen.


I like everything about the Takeda intake from materials to design, and the construction of the AFE filters, and it is not likely to have any hydrolock issues

I'm going to try and pre-order one , as they expect to ship in November. It is more pricey than the others, and nothing wrong with the other intakes but I like this overall design from what I'm seeing.

http://afepower.com/afe-power-tm-10...ro-5r-cold-air-intake-system#add-ons-packages
 

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Very excited to see this installed.
 

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I do have some concerns about intake power claims. I think the Injen claims are totally out of whack, they seem to be way too high and I've been around engine mods my whole life, maybe doing 300+ dyno runs on a handful of my past vehicles.


I just came across a post where one owner stated that he gained nothing from his Injen intake mod. I'm a bit skeptical about manufacturer claims wrt intake mods in general, so I'll have to investigate this a bit more.

You can see the comment in this thread - http://www.10thcivicforum.com/forum...-civic-today/11634-injen-cold-air-intake.html

It is totally possible for the car's ECM to dial out gains that are initially shown from an intake mod, I seen that happen on my SRT-4's where the car's computer was always trying to maintain a certain level of power and could detect changes in air flow. The gains end up being very short lived, you see it on initial installation and after a bit of time the power returns to factory levels. That car's factory ecm would try to boost power in hot weather, and it would reduce power in cold weather in an effort to maintain a consistent level of power, the same thing took placne when certain mods would change the air flow in and out of the engine. The civic could be the same way.


A lot of these cars are getting too smart for our own good, lol.
 

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Yea I thought the same thing on those claims.Im putting my cash that would be used for a intake towards the Flash Pro.I know Vitaliy and for under $600 I'll be getting a tune and FP.This intake runs around $360ish and for a couple hundred more FP can pull real at the wheel HP.Im probably going with no after market intake as I did with my SI.My SI had a Catted down pipe and Invidia catback and gained 30HP at the wheels on a edyno.
 

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Yea I thought the same thing on those claims.Im putting my cash that would be used for a intake towards the Flash Pro.I know Vitaliy and for under $600 I'll be getting a tune and FP.This intake runs around $360ish and for a couple hundred more FP can pull real at the wheel HP.Im probably going with no after market intake as I did with my SI.My SI had a Catted down pipe and Invidia catback and gained 30HP at the wheels on a edyno.
I'm starting to think that way too, as you noted a Flashpro will be miles ahead of an intake for just a few more bucks. Even the Hondata reflash sounds like a pretty good deal for someone that doesn't want to mess with tunes. Everyone I know who has used a Flashpro from my other car club say it's the best bang for the buck.
 

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I'm starting to think that way too, as you noted a Flashpro will be miles ahead of an intake for just a few more bucks. Even the Hondata reflash sounds like a pretty good deal for someone that doesn't want to mess with tunes. Everyone I know who has used a Flashpro from my other car club say it's the best bang for the buck.
As a former 8th gen SI with FlashPro owner, it was the best for that car. Those engines responded so well to H/I/E upgrades and FP just helped the engine run so much better, I hope the same is true for the 10th gen. There was a reason I paid $650 for mine and 1.5yrs later sold it used for $500, its because they work.
 

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Wouldn't the intercooler have a cooling effect on heat soak from a short ram intake pulling warm air into the engine?Making a cool air intake unnecessary?
 

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Wouldn't the intercooler have a cooling effect on heat soak from a short ram intake pulling warm air into the engine?Making a cool air intake unnecessary?
To some extent yes, I think it's less about intake temp , and more about increased air flow into the engine, leaning out the really rich air-fuel mixture you get when the ecm dumps fuel. A bit leaner makes more power. But I as alluded to, the ecm may eventually adjust for the extra air flow which it can detect after a few miles after the modification.
 

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The ecm will adjust because like you said, they're too smart for our own good lol. The only way to reap any benefits from it is to tune for it.

Side note, I love the sealed enclosure on the aFe. With that little peek-window on top, looks gorgeous !
 

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I am going with the Takdea. I have one on my 2013 Si and love it. Great compramise between short ram and cold.

It is also one of the few intakes on the 2.4L that does not require a tune to run it. Hoping the same is the case for the 1.5 until Hondata/K Tuner have had more time to work on a good tune.

I am hoping Vit starts working on the 1.5L, he seems to be the man to go to on the older models.
 

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I am going with the Takdea. I have one on my 2013 Si and love it. Great compramise between short ram and cold.

It is also one of the few intakes on the 2.4L that does not require a tune to run it. Hoping the same is the case for the 1.5 until Hondata/K Tuner have had more time to work on a good tune.

I am hoping Vit starts working on the 1.5L, he seems to be the man to go to on the older models.
Look forward to hearing your opinion on it after you get it installed. I think it is the best intake design right now from the ones that I've seen.
 

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I too would like to know if the intake will perform as claimed. An extra 13 hp and lbs/ft of torque is a pretty good trade for what you're paying.
 
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