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Is this a good auto? Have you ridden in the hatch model? C&D,ranked it 14 of 15,, Con rep give it decent marks,,What do you say?
I note that" Subaru has settled their oil consumption suit, torque new 1/11 16. Does any one have advice to someone seeking heated seats.
I see civic T has heated for the same price, is that a good bet?
I know the Sub Imp. has on their Premium,22,749. Thank you!
 

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Is this a good auto? Have you ridden in the hatch model? C&D,ranked it 14 of 15,, Con rep give it decent marks,,What do you say?
I note that" Subaru has settled their oil consumption suit, torque new 1/11 16. Does any one have advice to someone seeking heated seats.
I see civic T has heated for the same price, is that a good bet?
I know the Sub Imp. has on their Premium,22,749. Thank you!
Wrong forum, this is a Civic 10th Gen forum, if you want to know if a Subaru is a good car, you need to go on a subaru forum.
Personally I think Subaru is a waste of money, they dont ride well, and they allow TONS of road noise in, which drives me crazy, I want a quiet smooth riding car. That's just my opinion.
 

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Thank you !
Opinions are welcome comparing new Civic (never rode in one) and Subaru (never rode in one) .
The heated seats are in an EX-T and impressa hatch premium I think.
 

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Thank you !
Opinions are welcome comparing new Civic (never rode in one) and Subaru (never rode in one) .
The heated seats are in an EX-T and impressa hatch premium I think.
Test drive them both, it's free :D
 

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Subaru's make excellent cars. I was a Subaru driver myself before I purchased a 2016 Civic Touring. The reason I did not stick to the Subaru brand were numerous, but the primary reason is that I no longer live in the snow belt. AWD is a nice feature, but it costs a lot in weight and fuel efficiency and any benefit you get from AWD in day to day driving can be replicated with a good traction control system. If you absolutely must drive in snow, just putting snow tires on your regular car will go a long way towards getting you around.

Subaru's have to make trade off's to stay competitive. Chief among them is sound deadening. You will find that in general, with a few excepts, subaru's tend to be pretty loud on the road. Subaru has done an admiral job in using an in-house developed CVT to increase fuel economy, but in the case of the impreza, you are stuck with a 140 ish hp motor. The Civic will get much better mileage with nearly 40 more horses under the hood.
You will also see other tradeoff's in interior materials as well. AWD probably adds about 1000 dollars (in Subaru's economies of scale case) to the cost of a car, so you have to find areas to cut to stay competitive.

It ends up coming down to what do you want? Do you want an bulletproof drivetrain that will basically never break? OR do you want some more creature comforts, a better ride and more fuel economy.
 

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If you're going for comfort with the bells and whistles then I would say go for the civic T and you'll get more mpg than the impreza.
 

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Consumer reports recently put out a video that showed in real world snow conditions for street driving, a front wheel drive with a good set of snow tires on it, did just as well if not better than an all wheel drive with all season tires on it. So it's not even necessary to buy an AWD for snowy areas, just slap a good set of snow tires on, which in the long run is much cheaper than the cost of AWD
 

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A good example on an extreme level are some supercars and hypercars, the average person would think driving one of those in winter is impossible but then you have car makers like Koenigsegg that build their vehicles to be driven in any condition, and that means winter too. They even offer winter tire packages.
 

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A good example on an extreme level are some supercars and hypercars, the average person would think driving one of those in winter is impossible but then you have car makers like Koenigsegg that build their vehicles to be driven in any condition, and that means winter too. They even offer winter tire packages.
Never heard of that car Mfg before
 

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Frieend bought an imp. 5dr. hatch. Same 174"long and about 20 lb/hp as the 03 civic, with engine light on, small crack on exhaust manifold, 200,000m engine (that did not burn oil), inspection is due. Fwiw I think the c turbo is close to 18#/ hp.
Some things,,, looked like a hatch compared to Civic,, the headrests are removable from all seats, this tiny feature increases function and versatilty.,,instant access knobs are used to select climate & music. Heated seats were the big draw. Rochester ny is in and out of the snow belt, not huge but it can come in a hurry from certain lake effects. Ivory int. is not offered on the civic htd. st. turbo, just black.
20,914 final price w (750 for the trade) (that car may have landed on the lawn with a $5oo sign on it.)
Came with body colored splash guards, weather mats, hatch mat, net, & etc,etc, useful accessories.
Even with fantastic awd it is probably a couple G cheaper than Civic turbo.
Tax not included but it is 8% Thank you all for your well considered replies .
This is the 4th year for this imp. version and all the bugs are out, no cvt surging. HU failing.
 
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