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read one of the features was no gas cap. i like this.

push the lid in and it opens.... my concern is the apparent lack of a lock?
 

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My guess is with the vehicle detecting the key, you can open it, if the key isn't around then you might have trouble. That is at least how I think it should ideally work
 

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My guess is with the vehicle detecting the key, you can open it, if the key isn't around then you might have trouble. That is at least how I think it should ideally work
what if you're in proximity but not putting in gas... then anyone could siphon it off if they really wanted to ;) I don't see whats wrong with pulling a latch in the car like its always been...
 

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If it requires a button to activate then it should function based off of that with the key around allowing it to be activated.
 

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If it requires a button to activate then it should function based off of that with the key around allowing it to be activated.
LOL please... are you telling me we're so progressive even a simple gas door release isn't good enough for us anymore?



what does the key have to do with anything... if you're relasing it from inside the vehicle logic says that 9 times out of 10 you have the key...
 

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Actually guys, If the Honda capless is anything like the Ford one siphoning gas will be next to impossible...

Ford says its capless filler deters gas theft in two ways: A spring-loaded flapper is held closed by latches that can only be released by a standard-size fuel nozzle. When a proper nozzle is inserted, the latches release, and the nozzle pushes the flapper door open. When you remove the nozzle, the flapper snaps shut. If a wrong-size nozzle or foreign object, say a garden hose, is inserted, the latches won't release.
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...fillers-may-thwart-gas-thieves/1#.ViZYLX5JaM8
 

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Well that's going to make running out of gas a much bigger deal. So now I'll to call a tow truck to come take me to the gas station because the gas can nozzle won't go into the filler?

I only ran out of gas once, and I learned my lesson, but it does happen.
Good that was only once and I hope you don't allow fuel levels to go really low since that can damage the fuel pump, which in the end can cost within the hundreds for replacing it (including labor)
 

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Ha! No fuel pump damage, this was in a '78 Ford F150. But some jerk stole the battery while I was gone getting gas. And they CUT the battery cables. Lessons learned.
 

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Well that's going to make running out of gas a much bigger deal. So now I'll to call a tow truck to come take me to the gas station because the gas can nozzle won't go into the filler?

I only ran out of gas once, and I learned my lesson, but it does happen.


Here is the answer:

From the Civic Body Repair Manual:
• If you need to refuel the vehicle from a portable fuel container,
a funnel is located in the trunk’s spare tire well tool case
• The fueling system can be damaged by directly inserting the
nozzle of a portable fuel container or by using any funnel
other than the one provided with the vehicle.
 

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Where inside the car is the gas door covering latch located? I was hoping it was removed from the floor like previous models (which tend to get dirty from dirt falling off of shoes). I thought with the capless system it would have the door like Fords have where you just push in on the door and it has a two-way button, but I tried opening one the other day on one on the lot and it didn't work, but I could not see the latch on the floor by peering in the window, but it may be down there. I know they moved the trunk release button to the lower door panel. Hoping they moved the gas door latch as well. I haven't got to get inside a new one yet to check it out.
 

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The door will not unlatch if the car is locked on of the salesman told me he struggled to get the latch to open so he had to get the manual out and read it so if you're car is unlocked it will unlatch but won't if its locked
 

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The system works a little different. If the door is locked, then access is clearly just does not get it.
 

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The door opens with a touch provided the driver's door is unlocked. Honda appears to have used a dual flap system which attempts to keep dirt out. Ford has used a capless system for about 4 years. There are many videos showing issues with keeping these things clean to avoid engine check light issues due to evap leaks. Those of you who have owned Hondas are probably familiar with the dreaded P1456 code that is attributable to leaks.
 
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