Goodbye R18 or Turbo R18/R20

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DWils

· #3 · Nov 14, 2014

They're going to combine them and make a superturbocharged R38!

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Dblock

· #4 · Nov 14, 2014

Word...

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Deathklok

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 21, 2014

That's s great idea DW then I could fit more hookers in my trunk.:see_no_evil::hear_no_evil::speak_no_evil:

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KingraCivic

· #6 · Dec 10, 2014

I really want to know If the new civic will be turbo charged. That is my biggest reason for waiting to see if it happens. I'm waiting on a new si

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Smith

· #7 · Dec 10, 2014

KingraCivic said:
I really want to know If the new civic will be turbo charged. That is my biggest reason for waiting to see if it happens. I'm waiting on a new si

There's a good chance that can happen to meet the growing MPG standards and still deliver great power but then honda might avoid that just to ensure reliability. I really wouldn't mind a high output naturally aspirated 4 cylinder

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5TAR

· #8 · Dec 11, 2014

KingraCivic said:
I really want to know If the new civic will be turbo charged. That is my biggest reason for waiting to see if it happens. I'm waiting on a new si

It's looking to be a bit more possible of happening as today some automotive publications have mentioned honda may be bringing over some of what we want from the Euro Type R:

Honda won’t bring the European Civic Type R to North America, but most of its go-fast guts might make it after all.

The 2.0-liter turbocharged, direct injected “Earth Dreams” four-cylinder engine set to power that car will be offered in an updated version of the Civic sold in North America according to a report by MotoryRacing. The report also claims that Honda wont stop at dropping the engine into the current Si model, but that it will tune the U.S. spec car for performance more in line with the hi-po engine and that the model could even wear a Type R badge.

Supposedly, the car will be introduced next spring and if that turns out to be the case it could mean the hopped up Civic showing up for the 2016 model year.

A Honda representative was not available to comment at the time this story was written.

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RacelineUSA_Matt

· #9 · Dec 11, 2014

I think the 1.8L will be replaced by a boosted 1.5L .

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DWils

· #10 · Dec 12, 2014

RacelineUSA_Matt said:
I think the 1.8L will be replaced by a boosted 1.5L .

My 2007 Fit has a L15 engine. Boosting it conservatively (like a stock tune) yields like 130whp. More boost can see numbers in the area of 170whp. I doubt Honda would give a big car such a small engine, boosted or not.

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5TAR

· #11 · Dec 12, 2014

More boost can take power that high but it might also create a problem for ensuring the engine stays reliable, if anything i rather have less horsepower but still great reliability

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RacelineUSA_Matt

· #12 · Dec 12, 2014

DWils said:
My 2007 Fit has a L15 engine. Boosting it conservatively (like a stock tune) yields like 130whp. More boost can see numbers in the area of 170whp. I doubt Honda would give a big car such a small engine, boosted or not.

The non-Si models will definitely have engines under 2.0L. My guess is that Honda is aiming for 150 horsepower, 160 at best. There's no need for the base models to have big blocks. That's what the Si and Type R are for. There have been rumors that Honda plans to boost all Civics all across the board for some time now. I'm absolutely down with more power/torque and better fuel efficiency.

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5TAR

· #13 · Dec 16, 2014

I just hope that even with the basemodels that they don't have some engine that makes it feel sluggish. A good power to weight ratio is key, but of course on a basemodel you can't ask for too much, it'll have to be good enough.

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Smith

· #14 · Dec 18, 2014

RacelineUSA_Matt said:
The non-Si models will definitely have engines under 2.0L. My guess is that Honda is aiming for 150 horsepower, 160 at best. There's no need for the base models to have big blocks. That's what the Si and Type R are for. There have been rumors that Honda plans to boost all Civics all across the board for some time now. I'm absolutely down with more power/torque and better fuel efficiency.

Yeah that would put it in line with what the current model is like, but of course doing a bit better than that is always a good thing:

LX 5 speed manual $18,390 143-hp / 1.8L 4-cyl 28/36
EX continuously variable automatic $21,090 143-hp / 1.8L 4-cyl 30/39
EX-L continuously variable automatic $22,740 143-hp / 1.8L 4-cyl 30/39
Si 6 speed manual $22,990 205-hp / 2.4L 4-cyl 22/31

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Smartie

· #15 · Dec 19, 2014

I'd love to see them use the supercharged CRZ engine in something other than the CRZ, especially considering their flagship is going to be a TT V6 Hybrid, don't you think a Civic Soemthing could benefit from that type of hybrid association?

Supercharged with Electric torque vectoring, effectively AWD (electronically) MHMMMM

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5TAR

· #16 · Dec 19, 2014

wasn't really much of a fan of the CRZ because of how it initially launched...as a disappointment, but looking into the supercharged model for the first time, the specs are great....

Engine
Engine Type:
Displacement:
Horsepower (estimated):
Torque (estimated):
Differential:
Clutch:

Chassis
Front Brakes:
Wheels:
Tires:
Suspension:

Supercharged In-line 4-Cylinder
1497 cc
197-hp* @ 6250rpm
176 ft-lbs* @ 4850rpm
Advanced Limited-Slip Helical Gear Type
Carbon Semi-Metallic Six-Puck Street Performance Type

4-piston Aluminum Caliper / 300mm, Directionally-Ventilated Rotors
18-Inch Alloy Wheels
P215/40 R18 89Y
Lowered by 10mm
Front Spring Rate: 26.3 N/mm (150 lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate: 29.4 N/mm (168 lb/in)

that sort of power in a civic that's lighter would be great, lighter than the outgoing model (2754 / 2811), but in saying that I might be asking for too much.

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