Oh the 10 speaker setup and sub is fantastic! But.. yes there's always a but.. sure it's a good system, but if you want a lot of bass regardless of which model you get you'll need a sub, I use to have a Addictive audio V3 in my car and I loved it, but since I've gotten my civic the 10 speakers and sub do it justice, and it's really all I need maybe in the future I'll add my old sub in