Honda Recalling 2016 Civics For E-Brake Glitch

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Discussion Starter · Oct 14, 2016

Honda America is voluntarily recalling around 350,000 U.S. Civic Coupe and Sedans from the 2016 model year due to a parking brake software glitch.

This glitch affects the Civic’s electric parking brake, luckily no one has been injured or crashed their vehicle because of this. The problem was found when Honda was investigating warranty claims associated with the brake warning light turning on.

They found out that the Vehicle Stability Assist Electronic Control Unit software could affect the EPB module if owners use it after turning off the ignition. Simply put, the parking brake may not engage if applied right after turning the vehicle ignition off. If the EPB is applied before the vehicle ignition is turned off, then the problem will not occur.

You’ll know if the EPB can’t be applied because the brake warning indicator will light up and blink at you for 15 seconds. Also, the Civic could roll away if the warning light is ignored and the parking gear is not selected.

The fix is a free software update and Honda will be notifying owners via mail beginning early November 2016.

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Smith

· #2 · Oct 14, 2016

Wow, thankfully there were no fatalities since with an issue like this its way too easy for that to happen. Could be as simple as some child playing on the driveway behind one of these or someone stepping out for a moment and the unexpected happens.

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4Tires

· #3 · Oct 18, 2016

Is Toyota and Honda sharing the same E brake manufacturer? Toyota had to recall 340,000 Priuses because of the same problem.
This generally doesn't affect me because I never really used the E brake and everywhere I park is flat.

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B20Vtec

· #4 · Oct 18, 2016

I was thinking the same thing but the Prius one was from a couple months ago wasn't it ?

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dick w

· #5 · Oct 18, 2016

4Tires said:
Toyota had to recall 340,000 Priuses because of the same problem.

Toyota is fixing a problem with a mechanical cable. ("Toyota dealers will add clips on the top of the brake cable dust boots to prevent the cable from becoming inoperative…") The Honda problem is fixing a software defect. Honda Civic 10th gen does't use the same mechanical design.

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4Tires

· #6 · Oct 19, 2016

Guess it's a good thing I've waited so long for the Civic, by the time I get one, these problems should be fixed in the newer models.

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B20Vtec

· #7 · Oct 19, 2016

Hopefully, plan on waiting to see the Type Rs first anyhow

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4Tires

· #8 · Oct 20, 2016

You've got a long while to wait. The production version will be revealed in 2017 at the Geneva motor show in March next year. After that, you'll have to wait for production to start.

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Truckin

· #9 · Nov 1, 2016

Have an appointment this Saturday to have my recall completed. Haven't had an issue with mine yet, but figured might as well get it done.

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Truckin

· #10 · Nov 6, 2016

So went all the way to the dealership to have recall completed per the HondaLink app notification on my cell and the techs pulled the car back and stated it had already been completed by manufacturer. Techs verbalized they uploaded the updated software again just to be sure. That kind of sucks because it was almost an hour drive one way to the dealership. Now, the HondaLink app doesn't show the recall has been completed. Not sure why....
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dick w

· #11 · Nov 6, 2016

Truckin said:
Now, the HondaLink app doesn't show the recall has been completed. Not sure why....

Assuming the dealer tells Honda the recall action is complete, it probably takes a while for that to propagate through Honda's databases. Not sure how/why, except to get some warranty claim money, the dealer would tell them this if they didn't change anything, but...

OTOH, if Honda says your VIN needs the update and the dealer says it already had the update, I'd be quite concerned that the dealer didn't get it right. (If Honda assigned the update to your VIN, they'd know because they know volumes of data about exactly how the car was built. Precisely for this reason.) Take the TCM surge update for early 1.5Ts. Many owners were initially told that their cars were current but they still had the issue and eventually this was traced to the dealers not keeping the code in their programming laptops current.

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Truckin

· #12 · Nov 7, 2016

dick w said:
Assuming the dealer tells Honda the recall action is complete, it probably takes a while for that to propagate through Honda's databases. Not sure how/why, except to get some warranty claim money, the dealer would tell them this if they didn't change anything, but...

OTOH, if Honda says your VIN needs the update and the dealer says it already had the update, I'd be quite concerned that the dealer didn't get it right. (If Honda assigned the update to your VIN, they'd know because they know volumes of data about exactly how the car was built. Precisely for this reason.) Take the TCM surge update for early 1.5Ts. Many owners were initially told that their cars were current but they still had the issue and eventually this was traced to the dealers not keeping the code in their programming laptops current.

So....should I take it to another dealer? I also requested the TSB for the TCM surge be updated as well as I feel like my car does this especially around 60-70mph. They again stated the update had already been performed by the manufacturer and there wasn't any update available.....???

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