If True...I've Found Mine

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CivicDuty

Discussion Starter · Nov 19, 2015

Mods, please delete if previously discussed. I wanted a 6MT EX with the 1.5T, but the sedan only comes with a CVT. No thanks, been there, done that with a '98 Civic HX (CVT), will never own another, and my next Civic will have three pedals.

According to Road and Track, if true, I've now found mine:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...proof-honda-is-headed-in-the-right-direction/

Although it won't be available at launch, we've also learned that Honda plans to introduce a manual option for the 1.5-liter turbo engine that's not an Si. It's a move that makes more sense for the coupe than the sedan, and it should make for a quite a fun car.

Now THAT's what I want!

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Civil

· #2 · Nov 19, 2015

No taking away from the manual, but I'm sure that they have improved upon the CVT technology since your last time around. Have you considered a test drive?

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Nessuno

· #3 · Nov 19, 2015

Civil said:
No taking away from the manual, but I'm sure that they have improved upon the CVT technology since your last time around. Have you considered a test drive?

but you're not listening, he wants three pedals. It doesn't matter how good the CVT is, if you want to row you want to row... I drove the CVT, yea its one of the best CVTs out there, but it's still a CVT and in no way provides the same thrill

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Chitown Drifter

· #4 · Nov 19, 2015

I'm waiting on the 4-door hatchback 6MT and better features than the base trim with its 4.5" touchscreen. I'm OK with the 2.0 normally aspirated engine; I just don't want to settle for base trim or CVT (no matter how good it is). I've been rowing my own gears for 35+ years and have no intent to change. 3 pedals are firmly embedded in my driving DNA.

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Riley Coleman

· #5 · Nov 19, 2015

Chitown Drifter said:
I'm waiting on the 4-door hatchback 6MT and better features than the base trim with its 4.5" touchscreen. I'm OK with the 2.0 normally aspirated engine; I just don't want to settle for base trim or CVT (no matter how good it is). I've been rowing my own gears for 35+ years and have no intent to change. 3 pedals are firmly embedded in my driving DNA.

If you would like to send me a message with your contact information I can give you a shout when the first one rolls of the truck

Cheers,

Riley Coleman,

Sales Consultant @ Honda Downtown

Chitown Drifter

· #6 · Nov 19, 2015

Riley Coleman said:
If you would like to send me a message with your contact information I can give you a shout when the first one rolls of the truck

Cheers,

Riley Coleman,

Sales Consultant @ Honda Downtown

Thanks Riley, but I'm not so eager I have to have the first one. I signed up for the Honda updates, and I'll be frequenting this forum as the time time draws near. I actually have to bring my '07 Fit in next week for a maintenance Minder, and I'll talk to the Honda sales staff while I'm there (Lisle, IL).

Riley Coleman

· #7 · Nov 19, 2015

Chitown Drifter said:
Thanks Riley, but I'm not so eager I have to have the first one. I signed up for the Honda updates, and I'll be frequenting this forum as the time time draws near. I actually have to bring my '07 Fit in next week for a maintenance Minder, and I'll talk to the Honda sales staff while I'm there (Lisle, IL).

Ah, I didn't see your location. As we are in Canada I'm sure that would be to long of a drive haha. I hope you end up with the car you are looking for!

CivicDuty

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 20, 2015

Nessuno said:
but you're not listening, he wants three pedals. It doesn't matter how good the CVT is, if you want to row you want to row... I drove the CVT, yea its one of the best CVTs out there, but it's still a CVT and in no way provides the same thrill

Yep, that's it. I test drove a Fiesta ST some time ago, and I was impressed! But then I thought about Ford quality vs. Honda quality...hmmm. Oh, and I also want three pedals for theft deterrence...most young bucks can't drive a manual!

Dblock

· #9 · Nov 20, 2015

I totally I agree with you, I started with a manual car and will end with a manual car...

Tim

· #10 · Nov 20, 2015

same here
manuals are more used here in europe than in the us, i think
but automatics are gaining ground
my driveway will never be part of that ground though...

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Kecage

· #11 · Nov 20, 2015

Manual cars are for drivers! That's true. Until you get to the traffic jam.
Is CVT that bad? Never own a car with CVT, only classic automatic or manual.

Nessuno

· #12 · Nov 20, 2015

Kecage said:
Manual cars are for drivers! That's true. Until you get to the traffic jam.
Is CVT that bad? Never own a car with CVT, only classic automatic or manual.

honestly the old troupe about manuals being awful in traffic is getting a bit tired. Modern cars have such light clutches and easy clutches that it's really not a pain to be in and out in traffic.

I've got stuck in traffic driving my dads old 86 mustang GT... now that sucked...

5TAR

· #13 · Nov 20, 2015

For someone new to driving manual, it might be a bit of a PITA to start coming from an automatic where they don't have to do anything at all.

RobbJK88

· #14 · Nov 20, 2015

5TAR said:
For someone new to driving manual, it might be a bit of a PITA to start coming from an automatic where they don't have to do anything at all.

Agree. A seasoned veteran of manuals wouldn't mind the traffic stop and go at all (my dad never did). But someone new to manuals it might be a bit more frustrating, at least initially.

I never got the chance to learn how to drive a manual (i'd love to learn, but my dad lost his manual car before he could teach me). But even if i loved doing it, the fact i do 100% city driving, short trips, etc would probably still prompt me to get the CVT.

I am a little bummed honda decided to nix the paddle shifters on the CVT cars however, at least that gave something a little extra to the CVT for fun sake.

pukemon

· #15 · Nov 21, 2015

saturday was the first time ever i dreaded a manual. bad back spasm. 99.9999999% sure it was stress related as I accepted that I was working with a belligerent person. ugh. manual for life.

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CivicDuty

Discussion Starter · #16 · Nov 21, 2015

5TAR said:
an automatic where they don't have to do anything at all.

Precisely the point my good man! With a manual, you drive the car...with an auto, you just ride in the car.

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Hypnotoad

· #17 · Nov 23, 2015

Nessuno said:
honestly the old troupe about manuals being awful in traffic is getting a bit tired. Modern cars have such light clutches and easy clutches that it's really not a pain to be in and out in traffic.

I've got stuck in traffic driving my dads old 86 mustang GT... now that sucked...

Yeah, when I test drove my current car a few years back and then got back into my 94 civic I thought something was wrong with my clutch pedal. New cars are so much lighter on the clutch. Well, for econo cars at least.

Chitown Drifter

· #18 · Nov 23, 2015

Let's hope Honda doesn't shortchange all of us dedicated 3-pedal drivers by limiting us to LX trim in the hatchback coming out next year!

Until this new Civic was revealed I had my sights set on the new VW Golf, but their regular gasser 5 speed manual can only be had in base trim. At this point in my life I want and can afford higher trim features, and 58 is not so old that I'm ready to give up shifting my own gears like I've been doing the last 36 years.

I'm currently driving a 2007 Honda Fit Sport I bought new that year. It's been reliable, economical, fun to drive, and has tremendous cargo capacity for its size, but I'm ready for something more refined and quiet. Long road trips are a big chunk of the 112k miles I've put on this car. I compete in senior softball tournaments around the country and spend the rest of my vacation time hiking/backpacking. The last two years I drove from Chicago to Las Vegas for the World Masters tournament and hiked in Southern Utah coming & going (4000+ miles both trips). The Fit isn't the most comfortable interstate cruiser, and trying to listen to music above the wind and road noise gets tiresome. I still want the fun-to-drive factor, especially when I get to the mountain roads.

The Golf or this new Civic should fit the bill, but VW doesn't have the best reliability record and the Civic has it beat in fuel economy. I'm already impatient to see what Honda offers in their hatchback next year.

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Pinetop

· #19 · Nov 24, 2015

Chitown Drifter said:
Let's hope Honda doesn't shortchange all of us dedicated 3-pedal drivers by limiting us to LX trim in the hatchback coming out next year!

Until this new Civic was revealed I had my sights set on the new VW Golf, but their regular gasser 5 speed manual can only be had in base trim. At this point in my life I want and can afford higher trim features, and 58 is not so old that I'm ready to give up shifting my own gears like I've been doing the last 36 years.

I'm currently driving a 2007 Honda Fit Sport I bought new that year. It's been reliable, economical, fun to drive, and has tremendous cargo capacity for its size, but I'm ready for something more refined and quiet. Long road trips are a big chunk of the 112k miles I've put on this car. I compete in senior softball tournaments around the country and spend the rest of my vacation time hiking/backpacking. The last two years I drove from Chicago to Las Vegas for the World Masters tournament and hiked in Southern Utah coming & going (4000+ miles both trips). The Fit isn't the most comfortable interstate cruiser, and trying to listen to music above the wind and road noise gets tiresome. I still want the fun-to-drive factor, especially when I get to the mountain roads.

The Golf or this new Civic should fit the bill, but VW doesn't have the best reliability record and the Civic has it beat in fuel economy. I'm already impatient to see what Honda offers in their hatchback next year.

everything will be ok

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/11/new-honda-civic-turbo-wont-get-manual-2017/

Chitown Drifter

· #20 · Nov 24, 2015

Pinetop said:
everything will be ok http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/11/new-honda-civic-turbo-wont-get-manual-2017/

That's good news if it includes a 4 door hatchback and not just the coup.

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