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Is the turbo something you "feel" or is it just there to provide sufficient power?

Does the turbo make the car feel zippy, quick etc? Or is it just there to supplement a smaller engine making it feel like a normal car?

My mom just got a new Camry SE and has a similar horsepower output. It feels like a normal car. It can get up to speed just fine but doesn't feel fast or anything.
 

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Does the turbo make the car feel zippy, quick etc? Or is it just there to supplement a smaller engine making it feel like a normal car?

My mom just got a new Camry SE and has a similar horsepower output. It feels like a normal car. It can get up to speed just fine but doesn't feel fast or anything.
It feels like a normal car. It can get up to speed just fine but doesn't feel fast or anything.

That pretty much sums it up. If you want that 'gotta go fast' feeling you'd probably like the si and type R versions that will eventually come out (and will be tuned differently).
 

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My mom just got a new Camry SE and has a similar horsepower output. It feels like a normal car. It can get up to speed just fine but doesn't feel fast or anything.
What's the Camry weigh? This engine in a car that weighted 1,000 lbs less would feel amazingly fast. This engine in a Pilot or Odyssey would not feel fast by any means.

They tailor the engine's output to what they want for fuel economy and performance. In this case, by most reasonable measures for cars in the compact or economy sedan class, Honda and the '16 Civic 1.5 turbo delivered. And the turbo helped them do both.
 

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Another "turbo and its power" question.

Does the turbo kick in at a certain RPM, or at a certain pedal depression? Or does it kinda work all the time?
 

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They tailor the engine's output to what they want for fuel economy and performance. In this case, by most reasonable measures for cars in the compact or economy sedan class, Honda and the '16 Civic 1.5 turbo delivered. And the turbo helped them do both.
What dick w was saying is that boosting an engine's output with a turbocharger will increase the engine's efficiency. All of the fuel is burned up before reaching the exhaust stage. The ECU manages the fuel/air mixture including the wastegate for the turbocharger.
 

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I'll probably learn some day. But it's not something I'd get in a car I drive for everything. I do too much in my car to always pay attention to shifting.
 

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What dick w was saying is that boosting an engine's output with a turbocharger will increase the engine's efficiency. All of the fuel is burned up before reaching the exhaust stage. The ECU manages the fuel/air mixture including the wastegate for the turbocharger.
Mostly it puts more air charge in the cylinders than they'd get under normal atmospheric pressure. More air charge means you can add more fuel. More fuel means more power. So it gets more power out of smaller cylinders. Since they can use very low boost in cruise, they retain the economy benefits of the small engine. When they add boost under acceleration, they get more power for the displacement of the engine than they otherwise would.
 

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Does the turbo kick in at a certain RPM, or at a certain pedal depression? Or does it kinda work all the time?
The turbo is always spinning. They schedule the amount of exhaust to pass over it, hence boost, as a function of power demand--throttle, basically--so you get more boost as you demand more power. The Civic has an indicator that show more or fewer bars as a function of boost pressure so you can see how your driving effects boost. More boost equals lower fuel economy.
 

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So if you can't really feel the turbo, can you hear it? Does it make the exhaust note sound demonstrably different? Is there anything that makes it stand out in terms of your experience driving?
 

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If you drive the 2.0 and the 1.5 back to back, you can definitely feel the different driving experience the turbo equipped engine provides. I suspect Honda's design goal was to make the turbo *not* hugely obvious other than by its contributions to performance and fuel economy. It probably sounds "different" but does it have a "turbo" sound? I'd say not really.

When they make things "different" customers get unhappy. Witness the lack of shifting by CVTs and how many owners thought this made them feel somehow inferior to old fashioned automatics. So now Honda is making CVTs behave like old automatics when under heavy throttle. Not because it makes them work better but to make the owners feel happier about them.

If they weren't telling people it was turbocharged, people wouldn't buy it because "everybody knows" 2.0 is better than 1.5. Heck, in Canada, they even put a Turbo sticker on the side of the car.

More horsepower, more torque, better fuel economy (if you drive it like the EPA, probably worse if you drive it like a maniac). What's not to like?
 

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If you drive a car with a normally aspirated 1.5 liter engine it will feel like a true economy car with very little excitement. The turbo really makes this engine shine. It actually feels like a straight six. There is virtually no vibration either. The higher rpms really makes the turbo spool and you can feel it.
 

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It would be interesting to see a Honda Fit with more power but In don't think Honda will do that. The fit is supposed to be a cheap economy car. I think it's more of a beater car.
 

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I'll probably learn some day. But it's not something I'd get in a car I drive for everything. I do too much in my car to always pay attention to shifting.
With other cars they are boring, so you are finding stuff to entertain you while driving. (not the best idea needless to say) Get a manual car that id fun then the CAR is entertaining you and you will not want to do "other stuff".

My daughter is 15 and can drive a stick now, I have faith you can learn. She thought she would hate it, was scared, now loves it. My wife was the same way when I taught her years ago. Go for it and you will understand, there is more to driving!
 
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