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Auto Express got their hands on some exclusive pictures of the next-gen Type R before the hot hatch’s debut at the upcoming Paris Motor Show.

Type R fans were rejoicing when Honda announced last year that they will bringing the Civic Hatchback and its more powerful variant to North American shores. Now we have pictures of what the concept model will look like when it takes center stage at Paris.



As you can see, Honda went for a more mature and toned down look by removing the rear wing and replacing it with a more subtle spoiler.
Although the spied Type R prototypes at the Nurburgring race track were sporting a rear wing, it will most likely not appear on the concept and productions model. Maybe an additional aero package for the 2017 Civic Type R will have the more prominent wing. Also changed in the back end was diffuser. From the looks of it, the diffuser is noticeably smaller if not outright missing from the renderings.



The front facia received an update to include the new Civic headlights and grille design. It actually looks a lot like the hatchback prototype we saw earlier this year at the 2016 Geneva Motor Show; similar air intakes, fog lights, grille proportions, etc.

Overall, we’ll see a body size increase since the new Type R is said to be around 30mm wider, 20mm lower and 130mm longer. Much will change but it’ll still retain the iconic Civic Type R design cues like the red detailing and badge, flared wheel arches, etc.



Sitting under the concept’s bonnet is a tuned turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and this engine will most likely make its way into the production model. Currently, the outgoing model can produce 306 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque but once tuned we can expect to see it make around an extra 34 ponies. This will increase the potential power output to 340 hp and boost the torque to 332 lb-ft (450Nm). Top speed could see an increase too as the current outgoing model is capped at 168mph. Paired with the newly tuned engine could be a six-speed manual transmission and they’ll probably have the Type R remain a front-wheel drive hot hatch.

For more information and confirmation from Honda, we’ll have to wait until the Paris Show that’s set to take place from October 1st to the 16th.
 

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Capable of 340hp in a CTR is craziness. This is definitely going to bother a lot of the guys that are buying the BRZs and cars in that caliber. Getting spanked by one of these Civics will bring a reality check to a lot of non-believers lol
 

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It looks exactly like the civic hatchback concept we saw way back but in a different color and red piping. With 340hp, the Type R is going to whoop the VW Golf R and probably most of the hot hatches out there too.
 

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340hp in the Type R also leaves quite a bit more power gap for the Si to fill in too... before the rumored 230 seemed spot on for the current 310hp CTR... but with 340 we could see the Si bump up closer to 250-260 IF honda plans on keeping power gaps between trims similar.
 

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That would be ideal for the Si to be in that range. It'll still be open to a good amount of tuning at that and be able to produce some good numbers. Wonder what the price difference is that we'll be looking at
 

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I like the big spoiler on the back of the camouflaged version. Just like the Si, it needs the bigger Spoiler. It looks to much like the regular versions without it.
 

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That would be ideal for the Si to be in that range. It'll still be open to a good amount of tuning at that and be able to produce some good numbers. Wonder what the price difference is that we'll be looking at
I don't expect the Si to increase in price too much from the 9th gen, since the regular civics didn't all that much either... no point in pricing it out of their core demographics price range, that's what the Type R is for... I figure Si will basically have the same standard stuff as an EXT trim that could slot it below the touring price, but above the EXT price. Type R hopefully won't gain too much price either, since it's already around $30k.
 

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Around the $30k price range for the TypeR would be ideal, keep it within competition spec. It'll be real interesting to see what sales are like on it though against the other hot hatches. Wonder if it'll cause some people to change their brand loyalty.
 

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Around the $30k price range for the TypeR would be ideal, keep it within competition spec. It'll be real interesting to see what sales are like on it though against the other hot hatches. Wonder if it'll cause some people to change their brand loyalty.
Probably one of the new civics biggest advantages is that it'll be cross shopped with Acura and other entry level lux brands because of its new level of refinement and features. If the Type R can bring those cards to the table AND 340hp it'd be much a easier sell than any previous civic over a similarly equipped acura. Same way VW gets cross shopped with audi.
 

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I like the big spoiler on the back of the camouflaged version. Just like the Si, it needs the bigger Spoiler. It looks to much like the regular versions without it.
I'm pretty sure Honda will come out with an optional larger spoiler if it doesn't come as standard. We saw it on the test mule so I assume it'll be included somehow.
 

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I'm pretty sure Honda will come out with an optional larger spoiler if it doesn't come as standard. We saw it on the test mule so I assume it'll be included somehow.
Honda is all about using passive aero on it's cars (as opposed to automated active aero like grill shutters) so i'd be surprised if we didn't see a spoiler on the final car since that's about the best passive aero you can do on such a high hp FWD car.
 

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I don't think Honda has ever used active aero.. have they ?!
If they have it's on the NSX... but i don't know if it has any active aero or not... pretty sure they did all it's aero with vents.
 

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Just don't know how they're going to add a larger spoiler since the one on the rendering is attached to the taillights.
 

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Ah just took that in. The only thing I can think of it take off the existing roof spoiler and install something there, taking off that bottom one would leave a really awkward rear end
 
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