[Civic X News]

It’s now official everyone; Honda will be offering a six speed manual transmission option for the 1.5 liter turbocharged four cylinder engine in the new 10th gen civics. This isn’t limited to the sedan as it’ll be an option for the coupe and hatchback too.

Autoguide was recently at the media launch and they had a chance to test out the six speed manual transmission in a prototype car. A release timeline hasn’t been released yet but you can be expecting to see the 1.5 liter turbo engine produce 174 horsepower and 162 lb-ft of torque.

What’s interesting is that there’s supposed to be a video accompanying the article but it seems to have been removed or made private. Maybe there’s currently an information embargo on the new manual transmission.

So all we have is a short review from Mike Schlee (Autoguide editor). He says the “throws are medium-short, engagement smooth and the clutch predictable. But most importantly, it adds new life to the turbocharged engine while heightening the engagement and fun-to-drive factor exponentially.”

Maybe we’ll hear more in the near future but for now Honda has been tight lipped about it and left us all with a lot more questions than answers. Will it be available for all turbo engines? Will the manual releases be staggered and in the same release order as the non-manual versions (sedan, coupe, then hatchback)?

 

[CivicDuty]

Hot Dog! I can hardly wait! My future Civic will have two doors, three pedals, and a turbo...Woo Hoo!

 

[Chitown Drifter]

I've been waiting for the 4 door hatchback with manual trans. Hopefully the 1.5T will also come in hatchback form and will be worth the wait. I've owned nothing but manual trans for 35+ years and don't plan to change.


Last year I was ready to replace my 2007 Honda Fit Sport 5MT with the new Mk7 VW Golf, but I waited for the 2016 models with the CarPlay infotainment feature that mirrors a smart phone. I was planning to take that leap this spring, then I got wind of the new Civic with better fuel economy and Honda reliability. I'd like features higher than LX trim and it looks like that may become a reality, but when?


By the time 2017 rolls around I'll probably get wind of the next generation Mazda3. Reports are they will correct the noise issue, which has been the biggest drawback for me.
Choices, choices. >

I'm beginning to suspect these auto makers are in collusion with my wife, who is of the opinion my Fit (currently 113k miles) is good for another 100k. She's probably right about that, but I've been jonesing for a better (quieter) highway cruiser that's still fun to drive and has an up-to-date infotainment system.

 

[Buccal_Up]

****.. i wouldve waited for this

 

[RedCivicTouringMA]

I've been waiting for the 4 door hatchback with manual trans. Hopefully the 1.5T will also come in hatchback form and will be worth the wait. I've owned nothing but manual trans for 35+ years and don't plan to change.


Last year I was ready to replace my 2007 Honda Fit Sport 5MT with the new Mk7 VW Golf, but I waited for the 2016 models with the CarPlay infotainment feature that mirrors a smart phone. I was planning to take that leap this spring, then I got wind of the new Civic with better fuel economy and Honda reliability. I'd like features higher than LX trim and it looks like that may become a reality, but when?


By the time 2017 rolls around I'll probably get wind of the next generation Mazda3. Reports are they will correct the noise issue, which has been the biggest drawback for me.
Choices, choices. >

I'm beginning to suspect these auto makers are in collusion with my wife, who is of the opinion my Fit (currently 113k miles) is good for another 100k. She's probably right about that, but I've been jonesing for a better (quieter) highway cruiser that's still fun to drive and has an up-to-date infotainment system.

Honda is SO much better than VW and Mazda, especially for resale value

 

[4Tires]

But when will they come out? When?!?!?!?!!?!!
Think the manual turbo coupe will come out when the coupe is supposed to be released?

 

[Chitown Drifter]

Honda is SO much better than VW and Mazda, especially for resale value

On average I keep a car 10 years, so reliability is more important than resale value. Honda is tops among the cars I'm considering (which includes Ford Focus), and VW is last. The choice among fuel efficient hatchbacks really boils down to how much I like driving the car on a daily basis, on my long road trips, cargo capacity, and economy. It also has to fit in my spot in our garage -- 180" length max, but less would be better. The Civic hatchback needs to be shorter than the sedan. The Golf Sportwagen is 180" with cargo capacity that blows away everything in its class.


My experience with the Fit has earned Honda some brand loyalty, and the Civic hatchback is the top contender.

 

[CivicDuty]

Drifter, I was ready to jump on the Fit when they came out with the 6MT last year, but then found out they (Honda) screwed up the ratios so badly, it was like driving a 4 speed back from the 60's...sheesh! All they had to do was add an overdrive gear to the previous 5 speed, but NO! Ticked me off so bad I decided to stay with my '98 Civic HX that now has 225k miles on it. I'm patient, so I'll keep waiting.

 

[5TAR]

That's horrible. Down the road as these get cheaper and tuners look more into modifying these for track use and street use, there's a good chance we'll see them swap in a better transmission. Especially important in getting good lap times and having overall fun.

 

[Chitown Drifter]

Drifter, I was ready to jump on the Fit when they came out with the 6MT last year, but then found out they (Honda) screwed up the ratios so badly, it was like driving a 4 speed back from the 60's...sheesh! All they had to do was add an overdrive gear to the previous 5 speed, but NO! Ticked me off so bad I decided to stay with my '98 Civic HX that now has 225k miles on it. I'm patient, so I'll keep waiting.

I'm with you on that, CivicDuty!


I was excited when I heard the Fit was being redesigned, and the first improvement I wanted was an overdrive 6th gear added onto the existing 5th. I go on several long road trips every year, and my biggest complaint withthe 2007 Fit 5MT is 4000rpm @ 82mph and the road noise that makes it difficult to enjoy music on the weak stereo. I turned my back on the new Fit when I learned the gear ratio for the new 6th was the same as the old 5th.


It also didn't help that Honda increased rear seat leg room at the expense of cargo capacity behind the rear seat. I very seldom have rear seat passengers, whereas I often carry a good amount of stuff behind the rear seat with the security cover in place.


Reviews also indicate the newest Fit lost some of the fun-to-drive character of the first two generations. I willing to trade a smidgeon of that for some refinement, but they lost me with the gear ratio on the 6MT and its less than stellar fuel economy.

 

[soph_gregs]

Wish I would've waited now -__-

 

[4Tires]

The Civic EX is still a great car and we didn't really know the manual version would be coming out back then.

 

[5TAR]

Wish I would've waited now -__-

Patience is one thing I learned to be of great value with these new vehicles since not everything drops at once. It's always what appeals to the masses first, followed by the smaller demographics as time goes on and of course manual fits right into that.

 

[Sirrom]

So glad I waited until Spring to start test driving. I was going to settle on the 2.0 LX because a 6MT is a requirement for me. Now I'm going to have to wait a few more months than I wanted, but I'll be getting the better engine and more features that I was going to be disappointed about not having in the LX. And no, I don't want the Si, I want a car that's fun to drive but also takes regular fuel as premium is a waste of money imo.

 

[Chitown Drifter]

So glad I waited until Spring to start test driving. I was going to settle on the 2.0 LX because a 6MT is a requirement for me. Now I'm going to have to wait a few more months than I wanted, but I'll be getting the better engine and more features that I was going to be disappointed about not having in the LX. And no, I don't want the Si, I want a car that's fun to drive but also takes regular fuel as premium is a waste of money imo.

6MT is a requirement for me too, but I'm waiting for the 4 door hatchback. I'd like to know how long of a wait that's going to be.

 

[kckunkun]

****.. i wouldve waited for this

Same... I'm slightly annoyed now