[AlwaysHitVTEC]

10th Civic hatch with triple exhaust, spied in Spain. Could the Si or Type-R offer such an unconventional exhaust?

http://www.pistonudos.com/noticias/...ivic-sedan-se-deja-ver-por-tierras-espanolas/

 

[4Tires]

I think the tailpipes would look a lot better if they were the same size. The middle pipe looks inadequate between the two bigger ones. Depending on where you are, this version of the civic may not be available to you. I think another version will be made for the European market.

 

[RobbJK88]

I think the tailpipes would look a lot better if they were the same size. The middle pipe looks inadequate between the two bigger ones. Depending on where you are, this version of the civic may not be available to you. I think another version will be made for the European market.

What kind of version exactly? The civic is global car now. Other than offering diesel options and smaller gas engine options in europe what other versions could they release other than the type R and Si that would have exhaust pipes like that? And we already know we're getting both of those (europe might not get an Si, but who knows at this point)

Most likely this is just another frankenstein test mule to test engine and exhaust bits and in no way shape or form represents any part of the finished car. The front end is ILX, the side is ILX, the interior is probably ILX too. The rear was grafted on from a current gen Euro hatch civic (i can tell by the tail lights) only the center LED light bar between the outter housings might have come form the 10th gen coupe as the current euro hatch doesn't have the full width bar like that, but the outter housings are definitely current euro model.

 

[Civil]

The grille looks more Acura than Honda. Maybe this isn't a Civic. Probably some mash up of different models just to take out testing.

 

[5TAR]

I like the triple exhaust, the middle one being smaller than the outer two can be seen as adding character to it rather than being just 3 in the same diameter.

 

[RobbJK88]

The grille looks more Acura than Honda. Maybe this isn't a Civic. Probably some mash up of different models just to take out testing.

Its just a test mule. It looks like an acura because it is. The entire 2/3 front of the car is an ILX. The back end is a current gen euro hatch. We saw one of these some months ago testing. It's a cheaper easier way to test various components for the upcoming 10th gen hatch without actually having a production ready body for the car.

Other automakers do this all the time. Recently there was a modified Australian ute that was being used to test the engine components for the mid engine corvette.

Most likely the ILX is closer in size to the new civic (with the longer hood) so its body works well for testing the 10th gen parts. Most likely honda hasn't yet built an actual 10th gen hatch yet (like the coupe and sedan) because it's still more than a year away from production.

 

[Civil]

I do like it though its hard to have a fully informed opinion when so much is camouflaged. Seems like a more after market thing than something offered from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if everyone would like it.

 

[MTD]

The triple exhaust could be a few things. The smaller pipe could be a wastegate dump pipe if its turbo and/or diesel, it could also be a variable exhaust of some sort, opening and closing the smaller pipe for sound or emissions, or it could simple be for esthetics.

 

[RobbJK88]

The triple exhaust could be a few things. The smaller pipe could be a wastegate dump pipe if its turbo and/or diesel, it could also be a variable exhaust of some sort, opening and closing the smaller pipe for sound or emissions, or it could simple be for esthetics.

I could see it being a diesel feature. Most likely the 10th gen euro hatch will still come with a diesel option, it could be for that. Or as some people mentioned it could be some kind of dual action econ/sport switch exhaust to help keep EPA numbers up on paper.

 

[Smartie]

its definitely something sporty... they wouldn't run it around on low pros and what 17's/18's just for fun. They're getting relevant data from that setup... I wouldn't be surprised if that actually the 10th CTR... which would be interesting that they've started on it already... if it is the 10th CTR can we safely assume that they've shortened the current cars life cycle?

 

[RobbJK88]

its definitely something sporty... they wouldn't run it around on low pros and what 17's/18's just for fun. They're getting relevant data from that setup... I wouldn't be surprised if that actually the 10th CTR... which would be interesting that they've started on it already... if it is the 10th CTR can we safely assume that they've shortened the current cars life cycle?

It was already assumed the current cars life cycle would be short. 4 years, just like the US civic did. If not, we'd have another 2 years before the new CTR came along. But if they're doing mule testing for engine and exhaust components then it pretty much confirms they're doing a 4 year run for the Euro civic (which was just updated for this model year) and cutting it short by a year to get the new 10th gen hatch implemented.

 

[Smith]

While that is a short run, Honda is smart, they include a lot of interchangeable parts across models which makes an effort like that not much of a wasted effort. I know back in the 90's this was the case and it was very obvious.

 

[RobbJK88]

While that is a short run, Honda is smart, they include a lot of interchangeable parts across models which makes an effort like that not much of a wasted effort. I know back in the 90's this was the case and it was very obvious.

Oh yea... the 5th and 6th gens were practically identical. Different headlights and tails... a few other minor updates. I assume most of the carryover from the current gen might be dash materials, knobs, etc. But overall it'll be all new.

 

[Civil]

VW is also making the run of each of their models shorter. Perhaps this is an industry trend. I think that if one does it the others would be pressured to because you never want your models to be the old guys in the segment.

 

[RobbJK88]

VW is also making the run of each of their models shorter. Perhaps this is an industry trend. I think that if one does it the others would be pressured to because you never want your models to be the old guys in the segment.

True stuff. But in the world of ever changing tech and features i see cars almost going the route of computers and phones. A new version every year practically just to keep up with the latest and greatest. Kia and Hyundai already do small changes to their cars almost every year. It used to be a car could run for 3 years without any changes and keep strong sales... but it doesn't look like it'll be like that for much longer.

 

[Smartie]

True stuff. But in the world of ever changing tech and features i see cars almost going the route of computers and phones. A new version every year practically just to keep up with the latest and greatest. Kia and Hyundai already do small changes to their cars almost every year. It used to be a car could run for 3 years without any changes and keep strong sales... but it doesn't look like it'll be like that for much longer.

agreed, but I think the changes will be more focused on interior tech then anything else. Theres going to be an arms race.

 

[4Tires]

Not just interior tech, companies are racing to create the most fuel efficient cars too along with newer electronic models.

 

[Civil]

I think that the interior tech will be more of the focus though. I do wonder if, especially with electric vehicles, they will be able to make improvements all the time to fuel efficiency just through software updates.

 

[RobbJK88]

I think that the interior tech will be more of the focus though. I do wonder if, especially with electric vehicles, they will be able to make improvements all the time to fuel efficiency just through software updates.

I agree interior features will be the main focus. It's alot easier to change interior fabrics, touch screens and other minor things from year to year as opposed to changing body panels and bumper designs.

But yes, it's totally feasible to imagine small tweaks being made to both electric and gas cars to increase efficiency. Honda did the revamped exhaust system on the Civics for 2014 which freed up 3 horsepower (woot!). Other things like gear change ratios, fuel to air ratios, etc can all be tweaked via CPU to make a car more powerful or more efficient. So i could definitely see that being something that could happen year to year on some models of cars. But again, interior tech and features will be the biggest selling points, and the easiest to implement and change.

 

[GearGrind]

Had two civics, a 05 LX-G and a 08 Si. Both good cars.
Now i have two Subarus (13 BRZ and 15 WRX).

That being said, with the amount of mileage i put to the WRX, i need a new car in 4-5 years. I hope the Type-R or perhaps the Si would deliver!