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Just about every vehicle has something to love or hate, and the 2016+ Civic is no different. At this point we've seen enough in person and online, forming a solid foundation to point out exactly what we Hate or Love. Now this is your opportunity to share those points, Honda might be watching ;)
 

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6-Speed Manual transmission availability with ONLY the base model LX sedan is what I hate
Amen to that!

I was at Honda yesterday to service my 2007 Fit, and they had one '16 Civic in the showroom -- a black LX with auto trans. Overall I liked it very much, though I won't get the sedan (waiting for hatchback). There wasn't as much headroom front or rear as my Fit, and my hair was brushing the roof in back (I'm 6'-1"). The cockpit was very nice except the 4.5" touchscreen. All other trims get the 7" screen with CarPlay, so why punish LX buyers? When you're already paying $18k+ for a car, adding a couple $hundred for the infotainment system won't change the equation much -- except maybe to send potential buyers to a competing brand rather than settle for the substandard 4.5.
 

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I've had my car for just over 2 weeks and the one thing that's really missing is the sunglass cubby in the roof console I don't know why they left it out but I can't stand it but other than that haven't had any problems
 

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I hate that the 2 outer corners of the back seat are just pieces of plastic. I would rather pay more and have fabric there instead.
 

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Wait whaa? What's wrong with the audio deck?
Reports of sound muting out on one side (resolved by changing stations or something like that), sound going out completely (resolved by unplugging the car battery), freezing of the UI, Color going monochrome (black/white) on the display and bluetooth instability.

It could just be that some of these guys were unlucky, but the general consensus so far is that the UI is definitely glitchy and laggy. Also it doesn't help that the dealerships and service centers have hardly a clue about how to support this new tech.
 

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How effective have the hard resets been?

Would be interesting to see what kind of intervals there are between it needing hard resets. I would imagine it's great after reset and will slowly but surely start to lag again...
 

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fit and finish

Fender just under headlight driver side is raised up. 1/8" Also depresses when pressed
Other side is flushed and in-mobile as it should be.

Dealer doesn't want to remove to fix, unsure of repair if he does this.
 

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The ones I've seen on dealer lots so far have quite a sizeable gap around the decklid. One EX-T had the bottom corner of the driver's side taillight broken. I'm surprised it passed through quality inspection at the factory. Perhaps it happened during transit.

Also, the leather seats in the rear are not perforated like the front seats.
 

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4 day EX-L Owner. Here are my gripes:

1. Center console/armrest insanity. Does anyone really have a 2 foot tall drink? Even the SBUX Trenta cup fits in the top holder. There's no need for so many sliding parts. This could have been dramatically simplified. (The easter egg was neat though.)

2. Since the speedometer is a screen, they should offer an analog view - instead of only a digital one.

3. No memory buttons for the power seats?

4. Homelink Garage Door opener would have been nice.

5. Sunglass space would have been nice.

6. Wish the back seat didn't use hard plastic on the sides - that it would be more "seat-like" instead

7. Waze is perpetually screwed up when it tries to announce the directions. Sometimes it comes out of the phone's speaker. Sometimes it comes out of the car. Sometimes it is just silent. I have no clue what the right settings are. This is driving me nuts. (Help anyone?)

8. The UI / menu tree is overly complicated and slow. Reminds me of so many other Japanese products that I've used (Sony RX100, JAL 787 inflight). [I'm really picking as I work on product user interfaces.]

9. Some more USB ports and at higher amps in the dash would've been nice.

10. The steering wheel volume up/down requires a real stretch of my thumb. It's also weird that sliding it is the same as pressing it.

11. I wish I had spotted these scratches BEFORE I left the dealer's lot. :(
 

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Not happy so far.

So far the major downside I've heard is the audio deck being buggy as heck.

I just bought my Touring last night and have had the sound work a total of 3 times out of the 20+ times i've turned the car/radio on and off. NOT happy with the sound deck/radio/speakers at this time.
 

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That's horrible, on the plus side at least it's just that and nothing to do with how the vehicle drives which would be a big setback, at times requiring immediate action instead of whenever is most convenient.
 

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I bought my Touring yesterday and my biggest issue has been getting the sound to work on the "sound deck"/radio. Does anyone know what the issue is? How to do the "hard reset" I hear some others talking about? I'm wondering if it's a bug that needs reset/reprogrammed by the dealership.
 

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I just bought my Touring last night and have had the sound work a total of 3 times out of the 20+ times i've turned the car/radio on and off. NOT happy with the sound deck/radio/speakers at this time.

****, that's crazy to hear. I maybe waiting till the 2017 model rolls out.
 

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I bought my Touring yesterday and my biggest issue has been getting the sound to work on the "sound deck"/radio. Does anyone know what the issue is? How to do the "hard reset" I hear some others talking about? I'm wondering if it's a bug that needs reset/reprogrammed by the dealership.
The issue is buggy software. Hard reset is pulling fuses 18 and 19 or disconnecting a battery connection. it's lots of bugs that the dealer can't do anything about until Honda issues an update. Hopefully Honda issues that update in a way that you can perform it yourself rather than have to go get the dealer to do it. In order to put pressure on Honda to actually issue an update, you should complain to both the dealer and Honda. From 3 years experience as an owner of the incredibly buggy MyFordTouch infotainment system, I conclude the only way to get the problems fixed is for customers and the media to make life miserable for Honda until they do. Otherwise, it's just a another car they sold.

Honda In-Car Technology Support desk: (888) 528-7876
 

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I've had my Civic Touring for just under a week, and I thought I'd share some of my impressions:


Several of my dislikes have been cited by others... lack of sunglass holder, Homelink, power seat memory, and not enough USB ports.


A few additional ones of my own:



  1. OMG, the freaking horn! You blow the horn and you're immediately considered to be driving a toy car. If I wanted a car that sounded like a Mitsubishi Mirage, I would have bought one and saved $10000+.
  2. On top trim models such as the Touring and EX-L, the driver's seat should have adjustable lumbar support. (However, the built-in lumbar support feels pretty good, at least so far).
  3. Lack of damping on the glove compartment door.
  4. Too thin padding on the armrests on the doors.
  5. Compass reading should be a permanent fixture of the IP, rather than being tucked away in a DII screen.
  6. The Honda Sensing components fall short of the hype to some degree. The Adaptive Cruise Control tends to brake too hard regardless of the distance setting. And the Lane Keeping Assist jerks the steering wheel too much.

Things I like:



  1. Powertrain in general. Noticeably faster than the 9G Accord I4. CVT is smoother, perhaps helped by the 1.5t reaching max torque at a lower rpm.
  2. Gas mileage looks promising. A 25 mile drive on suburban roads (45 - 55 mph, several stoplights) yielded 41 mpg per the trip computer. Too early to draw any conclusions, but it's a good start.
  3. I've been fortunate enough (knock on wood) not to have encountered the sound system problems that others have reported. Given that I'm on my 7th Honda with "premium audio" since 2000 (all of the prior ones were Accords), from my previous experience, to my ear the Civic's "premium" audio system is the only one of these that deserves to be called "premium".
  4. I also seem to have dodged the fit and finish issues others have reported (again, knock on wood). On mine, exterior panels and interior components fit well, with no excessive gaps or misalignments.
  5. Ride and handling are pluses, improving on that of the 9G Accords. The Civic is much more controlled over rough roads. And it corners more enthusiastically as well... where the Accord starts to run a bit wide on a curve, the Civic still follows it with precision.
  6. I love the fact that the Civic's turning radius is 3 feet smaller than that of the 9G Accord, resulting in a much better car in tight spots.

So far, my impression is that the pros outweigh the cons. Overall, it's a very impressive car, particularly for a mainstream compact sedan.

Comments welcomed. :nerd:
 
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