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That doesn't look bad at all. Probably one of the few hatches that I actually really like. Could do a serious audio setup in that boot area. The fake vents are quite huge though and it may start to concern me later on
 

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already starting to imagine it as a Type R... this thing will look insane and drive the part too, once it's out, someone needs to compare these two, just to see how much of a difference it is. hopefully somewhere along the line we can have something to the equivalent of a Focus ST... not everyone will be able to get the Type R.
 

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Hopefully along with the new platform underpinning the next CTR there will come a certain level of refinement over the current 9th gen CTR. Reviews online talk about what a terrible daily driver it is (compared to the GTI clubsport) because the setup is so firm and harsh on regular roads... the CTR currently really only functions comfortably as a track car. The new platform offers a chance to have a selectable drive mode (like the NSX) which will either make the car a high power daily driver OR a track beast.

If people are going to spend $30k+ on the new CTR they're going to expect it to function not just as a track car, but as a (at least reasonably) comfortable daily driver as well. A configurable drive mode selector would accomplish that.
 

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Looks like this one is yet to be PDI'd by the dealership. I have to say there is a ton of extra unused area on the foglight surround looks a bit funny. The foglight is just in the bottom corner with a huge amount of grille.
Maybe it will take some getting used to.

Can't wait to see what the SI and Sport touring models look like. I'm sure they will have the center exit exhaust as well.
 

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Hopefully along with the new platform underpinning the next CTR there will come a certain level of refinement over the current 9th gen CTR. Reviews online talk about what a terrible daily driver it is (compared to the GTI clubsport) because the setup is so firm and harsh on regular roads... the CTR currently really only functions comfortably as a track car. The new platform offers a chance to have a selectable drive mode (like the NSX) which will either make the car a high power daily driver OR a track beast.

If people are going to spend $30k+ on the new CTR they're going to expect it to function not just as a track car, but as a (at least reasonably) comfortable daily driver as well. A configurable drive mode selector would accomplish that.
Well, Honda had a lot of time to make whatever changes they had to especially seeing how much more competitive the market is right now, its easy now to shop for something else, loyal customers can only take them so far.

I sure am open to getting something else if the CTR doesn't check most of my boxes.
 

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Well, Honda had a lot of time to make whatever changes they had to especially seeing how much more competitive the market is right now, its easy now to shop for something else, loyal customers can only take them so far.

I sure am open to getting something else if the CTR doesn't check most of my boxes.
Agreed. Competition is way too tight for honda to think they can make a car that only suits one want/need. It's gotta be a jack of all trades like the Golf lineup or even the Focus lineup. God forbid mazda finally gets around to making a new mazdaspeed3 the civic will have some real competition, because lets all be honest, FWD and AWD in this segment really doesn't promise someone will sway one way or another most times, if the new CTR is better than the Golf R people won't care about losing AWD. It's less about what is considered direct competition and more what is going to be cross-shopped with the CTR.
 

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Hopefully along with the new platform underpinning the next CTR there will come a certain level of refinement over the current 9th gen CTR. Reviews online talk about what a terrible daily driver it is (compared to the GTI clubsport) because the setup is so firm and harsh on regular roads... the CTR currently really only functions comfortably as a track car. The new platform offers a chance to have a selectable drive mode (like the NSX) which will either make the car a high power daily driver OR a track beast.

If people are going to spend $30k+ on the new CTR they're going to expect it to function not just as a track car, but as a (at least reasonably) comfortable daily driver as well. A configurable drive mode selector would accomplish that.
FK2 is not harder than the FN2.... I have one, and its actually not bad at all for daily driving.

I agree though it might be interesting to make an even softer setup via selectable drive mode for daily driving.
 

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FK2 is not harder than the FN2.... I have one, and its actually not bad at all for daily driving.

I agree though it might be interesting to make an even softer setup via selectable drive mode for daily driving.
It's hard to really judge the current CTR because it's based mostly on European reviewers and they have vastly different opinions on what makes a good car... plus their roads are often in worse shape so they have that to consider as well. Without long term reviews on american roads by american reviewers it's hard to really form a true opinion of the car.
 

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It's hard to really judge the current CTR because it's based mostly on European reviewers and they have vastly different opinions on what makes a good car... plus their roads are often in worse shape so they have that to consider as well. Without long term reviews on american roads by american reviewers it's hard to really form a true opinion of the car.
Well, I live in Denmark, and we have much better roads than US has mostly ;)

Its not harder than the FN2, and if they make it much softer, it would ruin the traction since its FWD.

Electronically selectable with 3 options or something, I agree something could be made.

But anyway, its not bad at all for daily driving if +R button is not pressed (remember there is already 2 options).
 
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